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I had to look that up. :P

Every day I feel older and more and more out of touch.

Now I need to go back over posts for the last five years and find out who was actually giving me crap. :P
Post edited September 14, 2018 by tinyE
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I downvoted the OP because it completely neglects the biggest problem: the fact that the Steam version of this game has Achievements but the GOG version does not.

Way too many games on GOG pull that crap. It should be not overlooked, like the OP is doing. To overlook it sends the message that doing that is okay, even though skipping Achievements for the GOG versions is one of the most major & most common ways that devs for many games treat GOG customers like second-class citizens.
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tinyE: I had to look that up. :P

Every day I feel older and more and more out of touch.

Now I need to go back over posts for the last five years and find out who was actually giving me crap. :P
I'll save you the time. It was all of them.
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tinyE: I had to look that up. :P

Every day I feel older and more and more out of touch.

Now I need to go back over posts for the last five years and find out who was actually giving me crap. :P
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paladin181: I'll save you the time. It was all of them.
which is why I hate having my parents in here
Well it looks like we finally got the 40% discount the Steam version got....nearly a day later. -_-

Can anyone confirm if we're getting the bug fixes from the Steam version or if the gog version already has the fixes? It seems we finally got the editor at least according to that earlier post.

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tinyE: I had to look that up. :P

Every day I feel older and more and more out of touch.
Lol, you're not the only one.
Post edited September 14, 2018 by Lucian_Galca
Actually, A Hat in Time is a perfect example of a dev team being complete and utter tits.

You think GOG users are getting shafted by Gears for Breakfast?
Well, you're right of course, but console owners are even worse off.

They're even making a Switch port before bringing any of the existing ports up to par with the Steam version.
Any Switch owners would have to be pretty trusting souls to spend money on AHiT.
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Fairfox: sad lee most peeps cant mek taht uuuh deter mination 'til afterwars tho
then its 2 late

liek ya 1ce it happen you get post knolewedge of sperg dev buuut oft. its crapshoot
SPERG?
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fronzelneekburm: I'm afraid the main way for gog out of this mess is to stop selling new games, become Good Old Games again and only sell games that are sure not to receive any more patches.
To give a different perspective on that: I'm quite happy for every game that gets released here, even if the support is lacking as the steam version is not an option for me. So I'd rather play an outdated game with missing features than one, that requires the steam client. So my suggestion would be: try to deliver the best product possible and cummunicate clearly if there are any differences between versions (don't copy/paste the steam description in such cases).
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CARRiON-XCII: Personally I think if a dev/pub refuses to keep their games up to date here they should be booted from the store. Fuck 'em.
I agree, that's the only way. I do understand that GOG does not want to lose publishers or scare off others but what use are those if they only use GOG to get some extra money and in the end - because of missing support - customers aren't satisfied because they own the game but dissatisfied because their game is outdated and probably broken? Perception would be another example of a broken game still sold on GOG and still so broken that you cannot finish it. Devs even refused to talk with me. Are we happy to have it here? Everybody should answer this question for him or herself.

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idbeholdME: Instead of struggling to get the newest updates for recently released games, they should be furiously negotiating/trying to find a way to get the crucial old games in here first.
Why on earth is everybody thinking that GOG abandoned old games? Has it ever occured to you that it will be harder and harder to get those games at all because of extreme legal problems and questions? If GOG would go back to their roots and sell old games only (which as I said will get fewer and fewer) I am sure they won't survive very long.
Post edited September 14, 2018 by MarkoH01
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hmcpretender: So I'd rather play an outdated game with missing features than one, that requires the steam client. So my suggestion would be: try to deliver the best product possible and cummunicate clearly if there are any differences between versions (don't copy/paste the steam description in such cases).
"Missing features" is one thing - but what about broken games?
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MarkoH01: "Missing features" is one thing - but what about broken games?
Depends on what you mean by "broken". If the games doesn't start or crashes constantly I obviously would not play it and it shouldn't be published to begin with.
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MarkoH01: "Missing features" is one thing - but what about broken games?
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hmcpretender: Depends on what you mean by "broken". If the games doesn't start or crashes constantly I obviously would not play it and it shouldn't be published to begin with.
Especially with small indie games (devs justz don't have enough time/money/manpower to test for everything) it's not uncertain that a certain game cannot be completed at all or that the game has other bugs. So while the devs fix those issues on Steam because it is the store they focused on during development the game remains broken on GOG. Remember: updates are rarely additional features but more often than not bugfixes.
Post edited September 14, 2018 by MarkoH01
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idbeholdME: Instead of struggling to get the newest updates for recently released games, they should be furiously negotiating/trying to find a way to get the crucial old games in here first.
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ShadowOwl: I joined for GOG for the old games back in 2009 but as it is standing right now GOG directly competes with Steam and is measured by such standards.
Yeah and veered towards that course. And spoiler: They will lose.
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hmcpretender: Depends on what you mean by "broken". If the games doesn't start or crashes constantly I obviously would not play it and it shouldn't be published to begin with.
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MarkoH01: Especially with small indie games (devs justz don't have enough time/money/manpower to test for everything) it's not uncertain that a certain game cannot be completed at all or that the game has other bugs. So while the devs fix those issues on Steam because it is the store they focused on during development the game remains broken on GOG. Remember: updates are rarely additional features but more often than not bugfixes.
Well, GoG would be well advised not to include games of questionable quality in their catalogue. The vague possibility of future patches shouldn't be play a role in that descision. If something broken still slips in, then refunds are probaly in order.

This however shouldn't stop GoG to make buisiness with trustworthy developers and bring their games here, even if they are younger than 5 years and still receive patches...
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hmcpretender: The vague possibility of future patches ...
Vague possibility? Did you ever follow the update history of indie games nowadays?

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hmcpretender: This however shouldn't stop GoG to make buisiness with trustworthy developers and bring their games here, even if they are younger than 5 years and still receive patches...
"Trustworthy" being the keyword here and if they are trustworthy I am all fpor bringing them in. However I wouldn't consider "let's get some money from those stupid GOG customers as well - no need to treat them the same as our valued Steam customers" not trustworthy at all and afaik we are complaining about those only.