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Point_Man: Wait when did Steam give out Shadow Complex for free? I got it for free on the Epic launcher but i never saw it go free on Steam.
It wasn't directly from Steam. I take it back, it wasn't free it was in a Humble Bundle with other games I wanted so I saw it as free. Sorry.
I paid $10 for SC:Re, The Killing Floor with a ton of DLC and the Vanishing of Ethan Carter among other games.
Post edited May 21, 2018 by paladin181
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Breja: Once Galaxy becomes mandatory, this thread will be the best answer why. With how many people here use all those clients, there's really little to no reason for GOG not to make Galaxy mandatory.
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Desmight: Most people don't care about ownership, preservation and privacy; as long as they can play the latest game they saw on Twitch, they're happy to make 10 accounts and install 15 clients. It's sad, but that's the truth.
Also, a lot of those clients/accounts have been used to redeem free games (Origin/Uplay/Twitch mostly), it's not like people actively use them.
I very rarely watch anything on Twitch. And when I have it's usually just been for friends.

So I can pretty much guarantee that my gaming has not been influenced by twitch.

As for privacy, I could give a rat's ass who knows which games I own. I mean unless you are some recluse, your life is not private to the public. People see what clothes you wear. They see what vehicle you drive. They see what you buy at the store every time you shop. They see how you work out every time you go to the gym. They see you. Your face. Your attitude. Now again, you could be a recluse and they see none of this.

Now privacy for me and most people is an issue when it starts to involve things that actually do matter. Like your full name, social security number, credit card information, home privacy, and other things being invaded or leaked. None of those clients have ever affected those things for me. And any client that has ever had the option to disclose your full name to the public has always had the option to hide that information.

And as for a lot of accounts being set up on other clients, I can agree some are used for free games, but most are set up for games that are extremely popular (not because of twitch) such as on uPlay having Far Cry and Assassin's Creed, and Origin having games like The Sims, Sim City, Battlefield, Titanfall, etc... You may not like those games, but quite a lot of people do. Hell Titanfall 2 is one of the best FPS games I've recently played. And you need Origin to play that. You'll never see it on GOG.

So why would I use GOG if I use all of these other clients? Well GOG has a ton of classic games I will probably never see on any of the other clients. Games I enjoy.

And you see there's the thing. If you have people who actually like games, and not brand loyalty (fanboys), you're bound to have people with multiple clients. Multiple platforms. Multiple consoles. You know, not just do the fanboy thing.


edit: And before anyone says "But the scammers!" I have had my game library on GOG public since it became an option, and long before that I have had a GOG wiki which I constantly update with my game library, also public, which actually links to some of my other accounts (e.g. Steam), and have never had anyone attempt to contact me. Now on Steam they have had and will always have issues with scammers (same as anywhere else, including GOG I'm sure). I have actually been victim to a few scamming attempts. Keyword: attempts. And the last one was probably 6 or 7 years ago. Steam has made a lot of improvements in fixing this with a ton of safeguards. And I have not had anyone contact me in many years to attempt anything. Despite having over 6,000 games (which can be viewed), and a few hundred games in my tradeable inventory, including quite a few removed titles. Most of the people still getting scammed are actively putting their info out on trading sites and groups. Just having your game library public is not a guarantee to get scammed.
Post edited May 21, 2018 by dm36
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Desmight: Most people don't care about ownership, preservation and privacy; as long as they can play the latest game they saw on Twitch, they're happy to make 10 accounts and install 15 clients. It's sad, but that's the truth.
Also, a lot of those clients/accounts have been used to redeem free games (Origin/Uplay/Twitch mostly), it's not like people actively use them.
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dm36: I very rarely watch anything on Twitch. And when I have it's usually just been for friends.

So I can pretty much guarantee that my gaming has not been influenced by twitch.

As for privacy, I could give a rat's ass who knows which games I own. I mean unless you are some recluse, your life is not private to the public. People see what clothes you wear. They see what vehicle you drive. They see what you buy at the store every time you shop. They see how you work out every time you go to the gym. They see you. Your face. Your attitude. Now again, you could be a recluse and they see none of this.

Now privacy for me and most people is an issue when it starts to involve things that actually do matter. Like your full name, social security number, credit card information, home privacy, and other things being invaded or leaked. None of those clients have ever affected those things for me. And any client that has ever had the option to disclose your full name to the public has always had the option to hide that information.

And as for a lot of accounts being set up on other clients, I can agree some are used for free games, but most are set up for games that are extremely popular (not because of twitch) such as on uPlay having Far Cry and Assassin's Creed, and Origin having games like The Sims, Sim City, Battlefield, Titanfall, etc... You may not like those games, but quite a lot of people do. Hell Titanfall 2 is one of the best FPS games I've recently played. And you need Origin to play that. You'll never see it on GOG.

So why would I use GOG if I use all of these other clients? Well GOG has a ton of classic games I will probably never see on any of the other clients. Games I enjoy.

And you see there's the thing. If you have people who actually like games, and not brand loyalty (fanboys), you're bound to have people with multiple clients. Multiple platforms. Multiple consoles. You know, not just do the fanboy thing.

edit: And before anyone says "But the scammers!" I have had my game library on GOG public since it became an option, and long before that I have had a GOG wiki which I constantly update with my game library, also public, which actually links to some of my other accounts (e.g. Steam), and have never had anyone attempt to contact me. Now on Steam they have had and will always have issues with scammers (same as anywhere else, including GOG I'm sure). I have actually been victim to a few scamming attempts. Keyword: attempts. And the last one was probably 6 or 7 years ago. Steam has made a lot of improvements in fixing this with a ton of safeguards. And I have not had anyone contact me in many years to attempt anything. Despite having over 6,000 games (which can be viewed), and a few hundred games in my tradeable inventory, including quite a few removed titles. Most of the people still getting scammed are actively putting their info out on trading sites and groups. Just having your game library public is not a guarantee to get scammed.
I respect what you wrote, even though I disagree with a few points. In particular, a good game is not always good enough to make you overlook everything else. And I'll make an example: Prey. Prey is a game I'd want to play, I'd buy it right now, even full price, if it didn't use Denuvo, but since I stopped buying Denuvo-protected games for almost 2 years at this point (and I'll keep avoiding them forever), I won't buy that game until it has Denuvo. Is it stupid? Pointless? No, it isn't. It's just that, even though I want to play Prey, I won't accept "anything" just to do it. And a lot of people will tell you the same thing about DLCs, microtransactions, always online, 30fps lock, multiple layers of DRM, preorder bulls**t etc. Everyone can have a reason to boycott a game, a client or a company, even if the game is good, the client is functional and the company is not that bad. Calling them haters (or fanboys) is just wrong.
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Well if you only use GOG for the DRM reason, that is fine. More power to you. Some people are a little more open to DRM. Don't ridicule them like anyone outside of GOG are just little twitch zealots playing the flavor of the week.

as for DLC, well even GOG is not safe from that.

I think the one universal thing everyone can agree is a major black mark on gaming right now is going to be the lootbox issue. That is one thing that needs to go right the **** away. And I can agree that those games do need to be boycotted. But not the clients that host their games, since it is a publisher issue, not a client issue.
Got Steam and Galaxy. I use battlenet to play Starcraft 1 with a buddy every now and then, but I didn't install a client for it...
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dm36: Well if you only use GOG for the DRM reason, that is fine. More power to you. Some people are a little more open to DRM. Don't ridicule them like anyone outside of GOG are just little twitch zealots playing the flavor of the week.

as for DLC, well even GOG is not safe from that.

I think the one universal thing everyone can agree is a major black mark on gaming right now is going to be the lootbox issue. That is one thing that needs to go right the **** away. And I can agree that those games do need to be boycotted. But not the clients that host their games, since it is a publisher issue, not a client issue.
I use GOG and Steam (pretty rarely Battle.net, only for Diablo 3, which was a gift btw) but I don't use Uplay or Origin, because I don't want to support Ubisoft and Electronic Arts in any way (for many reasons). I'm not the "DRM-free or nothing" type of guy, but I'll prefer the GOG/DRM-free version of a game over anything else.
Saying that some people are going to accept multiple DRMs, multiple clients etc. to play their favorite games is not lying: look at how many people happily bought and played AC Origins (which actually comes with 3 DRM systems + 1). I didn't mean to make fun of anyone.
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Currently none.
But i will probably reinstall steam one day. I really don't have many games there but maybe i will try doing something with rpg maker vx ace that i have there.
Steam, both the Windows version in Wine and native Linux (is that one or two?)
Origin (presentation is buggy under Wine with the windows frequently going entirely black, but seems to otherwise work well enough)
Uplay (can't login when under Wine, claims no connection to server)

No Galaxy, because I don't have to have it to play my games from here. Yay!
Post edited May 21, 2018 by Maighstir
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Breja: Once Galaxy becomes mandatory, this thread will be the best answer why. With how many people here use all those clients, there's really little to no reason for GOG not to make Galaxy mandatory.
Yeah, this thread is quite depressing. Seems like most of GOGs customer base nowadays is of a unprincipled, hedonistic nature. Well, thank you guys for keeping DRM profitable. :P
One for World of Warships/ Wargaming. The Star Trek MMO has a company launcher as well but you can get around it.

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tinyE: The options were:
One of the local places I work at on occasion had an issue with their security system. Two weeks of one sided emails trying to get them to answer some questions to solve this company's issue went unanswered. (The local tech had left the company and the next local tech is like 4 states away.)

After giving up, the company got back one of those "How did we do?" emails.

Answers were:

- Great
- Good

No other, bad, ok, or anything else. Just Great and Good.

Found out afterwards they had called the office's fax machine, didn't get anywhere of course and had just marked us as being unresponsive.
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dm36: For those complaining about a none option, it's quite a simple fix...

Don't vote.
Makes the questionnaire invalid.
Post edited May 21, 2018 by drmike
None whatsoever. Simple as that.
None.
I have Steam.

Two reasons: there are games I have there that work without the Steam client itself but I need the client to download them and the other reason is because of my friends. My friends insist on the use of it and although, no one is forcing me to use it, forgoing it cripples our communication.

However, it is fun testing out games and finding new ones that start without going through Steam. One day, when I have time and know-how, I might try and free the other games from the shackles of the client.
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Breja: Once Galaxy becomes mandatory, this thread will be the best answer why. With how many people here use all those clients, there's really little to no reason for GOG not to make Galaxy mandatory.
Not really. I use Galaxy because I like to know my playtime, convenience comes after that. If it was mandatory though, I certainly wouldn't be buying any games here. Just because you use something, it doesn't mean you don't heavily support the alternative.
GOG Galaxy, Steam, Origin, Blizzard app.

Important to say though, that I have never bought a single game from Steam directly.

Have origin just for Mass Effect/Dragon Age and On the House free games they do from time to time.

Blizzard was for Diablo 3 and HotS. I don't play those games these days, so I could easily just uninstall it with no repercussions.

GOG Galaxy just for the updates convenience with auto-updates disabled, it kept removing my mods, fan patches and such.