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Tarm: Even more interesting. Was Godzilla the third nuclear "Bomb" the US developed?
Nah, that one was just a cover story, so they could pretend the plane carrying it fell into the ocean, and that's what they are salvaging, when in fact they were trying to recover a fallen UFO.
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Breja: Hardly, considering how much money it made for Japan? I think however, that the world should apologise to Emmerich- his Godzilla really wasn't nearly as bad as most people say nowadays. And it was way better than the new one.
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NuffCatnip: Is that the one with Jean Reno?
If yes, I like that movie a great deal.
Yeah, that's the one.
Post edited May 12, 2016 by Breja
What I was taught in history class : Russia was making preparations to attack Japan but the US bombed them anyway. Nothing about reasoning from the US side.

What I heard in a documentary : Roosevelt talked to Stalin about the nukes and he said he hoped the US would ''make good use of it against the Japanese''.

EDIT: also got a question in a test asking whether the bombings could've been avoided.
Post edited May 12, 2016 by Shadowstalker16
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Tarm: Even more interesting. Was Godzilla the third nuclear "Bomb" the US developed?
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Breja: Nah, that one was just a cover story, so they could pretend the plane carrying it fell into the ocean, and that's what they are salvaging, when in fact they were trying to recover a fallen UFO.
Probably a fission based propulsion UFO even!
It was pretty much the ultimate male-ego stroking realized:

"NO, MINE is bigger than YOURS! What? You're not arguing that point? TOO BAD! YOU MUST KNOW MINE IS BIGGER! I'm going to whip it out, make you stare at it, and then make you suck on it, HARD, just so you can REALLY FEEL how much BIGGER I am than you are..

OH YOU THINK YOU'RE DONE? NO FuCKER, YOU MUST LOOK HOW BIG IT IS, AGAIN. And again, SUCK ON IT HARD! SUCK IT! TELL ME YOU SEE HOW BIG IT IS AND THAT I AM ALWAYS GOING TO BE BIGGER. YAAAA!! SUCK IT!!!! CHOKE ON IT AND DIE!! YAAA!!!"
Post edited May 12, 2016 by drealmer7
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drealmer7: It was pretty much the ultimate male-ego stroking realized:

"NO, MINE is bigger than YOURS! What? You're not arguing that point? TOO BAD! YOU MUST KNOW MINE IS BIGGER! I'm going to whip it out, make you stare at it, and then make you suck on it, HARD, just so you can REALLY FEEL how much BIGGER I am than you are..

OH YOU THINK YOU'RE DONE? NO FuCKER, YOU MUST LOOK HOW BIG IT IS, AGAIN. And again, SUCK ON IT HARD! SUCK IT! TELL ME YOU SEE HOW BIG IT IS AND THAT I AM ALWAYS GOING TO BE BIGGER. YAAAA!! SUCK IT!!!! CHOKE ON IT AND DIE!! YAAA!!!"
You're confusing this topic with the USA and Cuba almost gone hot cigar cold war.
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Tarm: You're confusing this topic with the USA and Cuba almost gone hot cigar cold war.
No, there was no actual whipping it out in that conflict.
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Tarm: You're confusing this topic with the USA and Cuba almost gone hot cigar cold war.
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drealmer7: No, there was no actual whipping it out in that conflict.
Oh you just got fooled by the smoke screen.
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drealmer7: It was pretty much the ultimate male-ego stroking realized:

"NO, MINE is bigger than YOURS! What? You're not arguing that point? TOO BAD! YOU MUST KNOW MINE IS BIGGER! I'm going to whip it out, make you stare at it, and then make you suck on it, HARD, just so you can REALLY FEEL how much BIGGER I am than you are..

OH YOU THINK YOU'RE DONE? NO FuCKER, YOU MUST LOOK HOW BIG IT IS, AGAIN. And again, SUCK ON IT HARD! SUCK IT! TELL ME YOU SEE HOW BIG IT IS AND THAT I AM ALWAYS GOING TO BE BIGGER. YAAAA!! SUCK IT!!!! CHOKE ON IT AND DIE!! YAAA!!!"
What a fuckwit,you are.
Post edited May 12, 2016 by Tauto
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Breja: I know I'm asking for trouble here, and I'm probably going to be labled a monster and a defender of genocide or whatever, but I think it's insanity to have the Allies apologise to the former Axis countries. It was a horrible war, terrible things happened to everyone, but to have USA apologise to Hitler's allies... hell no. That said, every sane person should hope such terrible things will never happen again. And by no means do I hold the Japan or Germany of today responsible, or harbor any hatred towards them. Please, keep that in mind, so no misunderstandings occur.
Nope, political powers which decided to ally with the nazies deserve no apology. But the civilians, the children, they deserves one.

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Breja: horrible war, terrible things happened to everyone
True - but in retrospect, I think Germany took responsibility for having acted evil, while the US still largely belives that their attack was somehow different from that of any other extremist group who targets civilians.
Post edited May 12, 2016 by KasperHviid
At that point of the war, anyone in a position of power was probably emphatically too numb to register the war casualty reports as anything other than pieces of paper with numbers on them, adding a few hundred thousand to already hundreds of thousands that died in the fire bombings, for instance, didn't seem too regrettable. You can bet a few other emotions can be mixed in there, revenge, pride, anger, frustration, and no doubt an erection at the godlike show of power you could now wield in a single relatively small package.

Anyway, all those tombstones are now part of history, whether you like it or not. Hopefully not.
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tinyE: This raises an interesting question: Should Godzilla apologize to Tokyo?
Godzilla the animal? No, it's just acting on it's fucked up instincts.

Godzilla the film? Yes. Unreservedly.
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tinyE: This raises an interesting question: Should Godzilla apologize to Tokyo?
No, because it would have to be translated by a group of Japanese school children who feel the need to say everything in a high pitch voice while running around in a wild panic for no reason (anyone who's seen enough Japanese monster/space movies will understand. Those who haven't will just have to take my word for it).