Why are the Social justice Warriors and feminists throwing a temper tantrum over rape scene which supposedly occured off camera when the show is full of violence, back-stabbing, genital mutilation, incest, murder, massacre and other brutal stuff ?

http://www.nydailynews.com/entertainment/tv/game-thrones-fans-outrage-rape-leads-article-1.2473233

i dunno. opinions are like assholes anyway? why don't you ask them? oh wait. they don't even want to watch the damn show. so what gives?!?!

I consider myself a feminist and lean towards being a SJW (I don't see this as a bad thing at all), but I don't understand the issue here either. I've only ever seen the first 8 episodes of the show and I was only offended by the CRAPTASTIC WRITING and god-awful directing, and really know nothing about the show, buuuut, if you don't like the FICTION that you're watching, TURN IT OFF. It's really that simple. I can only assume the books are just as shittily written and executed. GRRM is a despicable human, sooo, it shouldn't be surprising that the crap he writes is tasteless trash too.

Nothing speaks more to the integrity of a show than "we'll cater to the audience" too. That's really unfortunate because Jeremy Podeswa has the potential to be an excellent director if the material he is working from is good.

For me, when I watched the show, I just rolled my eyes because it was clear that the show was just trying to one up itself in the depravity. What the author/director did to Sansa over the seasons culminated in the rape scene, and some fans basically said enough is enough. Get over your fetish with punishing Sansa, first Geoffrey and then Ramsey. That rape scene was saying to the fan base, "fuck the story, we're here to shock". So the reaction is more about saying enough already, than your cool SJW terminology. I know it's trendy to throw that SJW term around.

For the past year or so, I've been watch the show on HBOGO so that I can basically skip over most of the plot lines I don't care about. Because so much of the show is pointless. But I like the Imp and Jon Snow. The only two story lines I pay attention to at this point.

Well, I haven't seen this episode yet so I can't really comment on it. But the thing I take issue with is that they add rape scenes that are not there in the book. Like the one with Sansa, for instance. And the controversial scene between Jaime and Cersei a while ago. That eventually ended up being consensual in the book but I don't think it was in the show. So I'm just left to wonder why they feel the need to add those scenes. Is it just for shock value? I don't see much sense in that.

HUGE SPOILER though a spoiler of my opinion that I think is probably very true! So don't read if you don't want to know...
















She wasn't being raped. She was giving birth. To Jon "Snow." I think it's been pretty obvious for a while that Lyanna was Rhaegar's willing lover. She dies... in childbirth. Ned bears the shame of "his bastard" to protect Jon Snow and his family name.

I was confused why the story linked was to sansa, and did not get the offscreen reference. Because having read all the theories in the past couple of months, I knew what was going on, and where the Bran story is going.

More or less this I guess. What happens in the book is worse, but it doesn´t happen to Sansa, who is in another place and plotline with Littlefinger (and really, besides legitimacing Bolton´s claim on the North, wtf did Sansa acomplish on the show?). From the spoilers I got from Season 5, they are trying really hard to one-up the source material in shock value, without the writing skills to pull it off. If you keep piling so many bad things onto characters, it ´s just tiring. Kind of happened on the books too after the RW, but the dip in quality on AFfC and ADwD helped a lot.

I've not watched episodes from season 6 yet, nor do I intend to do so, but I thought it started out good the first 2 seasons, and then it spiralled downwards and downwards, with increasingly more focus on SHOCK and character assassinations. Pretty sad to see what they have done to Sansa and Stannis (and many others). Several times they have portrayed genuine sex scenes as rape as well, which has led to outcries from the usual quarters.

It could have been such a marvellous series, but instead the writers decided to fuck the books, fuck the story, fuck the characters, and introduce more plot holes and irrational behaviour than you can swing a sword at. Watching the episodes became torture, with unhealthy amounts of eye-rolling, so I have jumped off, and am happier for it.

Since people still seem to watch it, it probably won't be mercy killed like Heroes was, but it probably should have been. I'd love to hear an honest piece about it by George RR Martin. Maybe we will get one when the whole thing has finally ended, and his own books have set things right (please don't die).

I don't get it. Are you throwing a tamper tamtrum about a tamper tamtrum that other people threw a year ago? Talk about the pot calling the kettle black.

Long story short, people complained because it was stupid. It didn't happen in the books, it was added solely for shock value, and it undermined the arc of the character.

Oh good. Game of Thrones, internet drama and (anti)"SJWs" all in one thread. Can someone find me a flamethrower please?

LOL did I mess this up royally? I admit I don't click links, so I guessed this entire topic was a reference to Lyanna screaming in the tower in the Bran flashback. Was the first post / link really a reference to a scene that occurred over a year ago in the last season? Whoops - I admit I'm not good when it comes to delayed outrage and thought the original post was about what happened in the episode last night.

Well, it wasn't an unreasonable conclusion. That filthy Targ, Rhaegar, did kidnap Lyanna. Good thing Robert gave him what for in the Trident.

Maybe next we'll see Ned meet Ashara Dayne who'll hand him Jon, their bastard baby?

Barristan thinks she gave birth to a girl, and the Stark involved is hinted not to be Ned. And although circumstances are still unknown, it´s clear from book 1 Lyanna died from childbirth. Or one hell of a misdirecting description.

First off, they didn't "add" any rape scene into the TV series. In order to reduce the number of characters, they had to, by necessity, combine some plot lines. In the book it was the fake Arya (Jayne Poole) who was married and raped for a Stark heir. Instead, saving the screen time necessary to develop the whole fake Arya plotline, they substituted Sansa who wasn't doing anything really important at the time anyway. Using Sansa served the same point as the book; the quest of the Boltons to solidify their hold on the North through a legitimate heir.

The truth is that the TV version was far more tame than the book. This idea that it was entirely gratuitous is silly. If anything, the media coverage is what is gratuitous. It really shouldn't be that hard to figure out why the TV show runners did what they did. It is an event from the books. Of course most of the people complaining about it in this thread seem to be saying they either don't watch it or have quit after the first two seasons, yet still claim how the show is going strictly for shock value.

As to Jamie and Cercei, that was clearly consensual in the TV series as well.