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RWarehall: Wonderful contribution to the thread. I'm sure you are just trying to help...
Clearly not some sort of personal attack or name calling...just amazing...
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wpegg: Thankyou, it's a wonderful performance isn't it?

I seem to remember that it was originally meant to be a fully worded song, but the singer was not able to perform it because of the political fallout. He instead decided to just sing the song, no real words, just feeling and expression.
Bullshit, I couldn't dance to it!

Just admit it, you'll never be Hanson!



* Moded. Please refrain from excessive usage of swearwords, especially directed at others.
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wpegg: Thankyou, it's a wonderful performance isn't it?

I seem to remember that it was originally meant to be a fully worded song, but the singer was not able to perform it because of the political fallout. He instead decided to just sing the song, no real words, just feeling and expression.
And what is your post exactly? What does it make you? The biggest problem with these forums are the same dozen or so people going into threads just to call people out, call for thread closure and/or otherwise work hard to inflame, incite or derail any discussion they don't want to see. Look at every single thread and look at the same names always trying to impose their own personal moderation.

Whatever happened to ignoring threads you don't like, but no, you feel you should lob insults without joining the discussion at all. Pretend to play the high ground, but the truth is that this is what has turned these forums into what it is. People who are interested in a particular discussion at all, just trying to bully and harass the people they don't like off the forums.

There's a lot of dumb discussions on this forum, but you don't see me going around joining them if I have nothing useful to add. Too many thread are just a bunch of self-proclaimed "do-gooders" attacking other people, derailing the thread, and trying to act the hero for it. When the truth is this behavior is far more trollish than those trying to start a discussion.
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RWarehall: <snip>
I posted a link to a song. That was all.
Post edited November 19, 2018 by wpegg
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RWarehall: <snip>
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wpegg: I posted a link to a song. That was all.
Say, there's an idea!

Once a week, GOG Karaoke!
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tinyE: Just admit it, you'll never be Hanson!
Right - you asked for this... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AX_FxBSEh1A
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LootHunter: EVERYTHING might offend some people. No matter what Linko would tweet SJWs would spin that as an offense. So there was no way for him to avoid controversy.
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SirPrimalform: Absolute bollocks. Who knows how many thousands of companies there are out there managing not to offend anyone? If everything all companies tweet is offensive then GOG's tweet wouldn't have even been noticed. It would have been background noise amongst all the other offensive tweets.
Yes, it WAS background noise. Until SJWs came along and decided to start a mob to make an example.
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RWarehall: <snip>
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wpegg: I posted a link to a song. That was all.
To be fair, that IS an attempt to derail the thread. It's not hard to imagine the response I'd get from people if I went into a conversation about metoo or something and posted random songs, and then tried to act innocent when they called me out on it.

That said, in my opinion the proper response would just be to ignore you and those aiding in the derailment if I don't like it, and focus on relevant posts. A big part of the problem is people don't have a sense of humor anymore, take everything so serious. None of the tweets sent out by gog had malicious intent.
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SirPrimalform: Absolute bollocks. Who knows how many thousands of companies there are out there managing not to offend anyone? If everything all companies tweet is offensive then GOG's tweet wouldn't have even been noticed. It would have been background noise amongst all the other offensive tweets.
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LootHunter: Yes, it WAS background noise. Until SJWs came along and decided to start a mob to make an example.
Please leave a message after the tone.

















*beeeep*
I miss Linko90 somehow. He was like an atom bomb.

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Vainamoinen: an utter conspiracy nutjob locked away by his family, a 'first world problems' lolcow hunter on the desperate search for prey, a literally braindead wannabe member of Putin's troll army
As a high-ranking officer of Masha-degree at service of Putin Troll Army (PiTA), I must congratulate you sir on successful operation of recursively trolling your-own-self.

Na zdororvie!

З.Ы.
And while I possibly understand the reason behind your continuous and enthusiastic rainbow puke, that is still not enough to be enlisted in our PITA army. Please continue trying!
If you don't want to engage in the discussion that this thread is about and have nothing to say on the matter, don't write off-topic posts that do not add anything of value.

Plenty of other threads you can participate in instead :)
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PanzerFranzz: I have a source by way of inference:

https://static1.squarespace.com/static/5a70a7c3010027736a22740f/t/5bbcea6b7817f7bf7342b718/1539107467397/hidden_tribes_report-2.pdf

The study points out that the 8% of the US population that calls themselves "progressive activist" are also roughly similar to the 7% of the country that doesn't think political correctness has gone too far in suppressing free speech. The study also states that 80 percent believe that “political correctness is a problem in our country."

We need some assumptions for this to work, but if we assume these attiudes are similar throughout the west (probably a more generally pro-PC in regions like Scandavania, England, France and a bit less in generally anti-PC regions in eastern Europe) and if we understand "progressive activist" to mean the sort of person who is happy to use activism to suppress free speech and finally if we assume that GOG's customer base is roughly similar to the general population then we can infer that approximately 80% of their customers would be against the handling of Linko90 (insofar as what we do know: he was harassed by progressive activists and GOG took no public actions or even make a statement to defend their employees right not to be harassed) and at most, about 7-8% would support it.

N.B. This study was carried out by leftist academics from England and their research design looks solid, so there is no way for a progressive activist to try and argue that they and their ideas were treated unfairly in this study - the evidence is clear, the sort of people who harassed (and/or supported that harassment) of Linko90 make up an ever decreasing share of the population.
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SirPrimalform: And where do I fit in your extrapolation? I understand why GOG had to let him go (he was bad at his job repeatedly), but I'm not part of the 8% in your statistics. Woah!
Is it possible that not everyone outside of that 8% is a redpiller? Sounds pretty crazy if you ask me!
I would ask you to examine the study in question more closely. You are missing the point, which is that 80% of the population think that political correctness suppressing free speech is a problem and only 7-8% see no problem with the way in which it suppresses free speech. That 80% includes a lot of people on the left and liberals. I'm not talking about them, I am talking about this tiny minority, the same sort of people who support the suppression of Linko90's free expression for no other reason than to try and scare the other 92% into suppressing their free speech as well.

I heard a Polish person say once something to the effect that: "You know when communism started to fall in Poland? It was when the Pope visited and was greeted spontaneously by millions in the street. These millions of people turned around and looked at each other (gathered together in free assembly and expression) and realized that THEY were the majority." Before then, it was easy for them to forget that given the chilling effect of marxist propaganda, which made a tiny group of activists seem mainstream in Polish society.

The parallels to our current situation are enlightening.
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LootHunter: How can you be outside of 8% "progressives" if you have "progressive" view that Linko90 jokes being unacceptable?
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SirPrimalform: 1. They said progressive activists. I was entirely passive with regard to this situation.
2. You are making big assumptions about my views. What I said was that Linko was fired for being bad at his job. Using a corporate account to make controversial jokes is being bad at PR.
Linko90 did nothing wrong. The joke was not controversial just because 7% of the population get worked up about it. The activists who define and police what a "controversial joke" to suppress free speech is what has caused this situation. And it is precisely my point that they need to be challenged on their assumptions and definitions, because they are not only wrong, but contradictory.

If your standard were actually applies evenly, people running half the corporate accounts on twitter should be fired. But they are not. Not because they are bad at PR, but because this isn't about PR, it's about politics.

I am struggling to understand how someone with 2,800+ "reps" can react so emotionally to the findings of a scientific study conducted by leftist academics.
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SirPrimalform: And where do I fit in your extrapolation? I understand why GOG had to let him go (he was bad at his job repeatedly), but I'm not part of the 8% in your statistics. Woah!
Is it possible that not everyone outside of that 8% is a redpiller? Sounds pretty crazy if you ask me!
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PanzerFranzz: I would ask you to examine the study in question more closely. You are missing the point, which is that 80% of the population think that political correctness suppressing free speech is a problem and only 7-8% see no problem with the way in which it suppresses free speech. That 80% includes a lot of people on the left and liberals. I'm not talking about them, I am talking about this tiny minority, the same sort of people who support the suppression of Linko90's free expression for no other reason than to try and scare the other 92% into suppressing their free speech as well.

I heard a Polish person say once something to the effect that: "You know when communism started to fall in Poland? It was when the Pope visited and was greeted spontaneously by millions in the street. These millions of people turned around and looked at each other (gathered together in free assembly and expression) and realized that THEY were the majority." Before then, it was easy for them to forget that given the chilling effect of marxist propaganda, which made a tiny group of activists seem mainstream in Polish society.

The parallels to our current situation are enlightening.
The number you have dialled has been disconnected.

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SirPrimalform: 1. They said progressive activists. I was entirely passive with regard to this situation.
2. You are making big assumptions about my views. What I said was that Linko was fired for being bad at his job. Using a corporate account to make controversial jokes is being bad at PR.
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PanzerFranzz: Linko90 did nothing wrong. The joke was not controversial just because 7% of the population get worked up about it. The activists who define and police what a "controversial joke" to suppress free speech is what has caused this situation. And it is precisely my point that they need to be challenged on their assumptions and definitions, because they are not only wrong, but contradictory.

If your standard were actually applies evenly, people running half the corporate accounts on twitter should be fired. But they are not. Not because they are bad at PR, but because this isn't about PR, it's about politics.

I am struggling to understand how someone with 2,800+ "reps" can react so emotionally to the findings of a scientific study conducted by leftist academics.
*beep beep beep*

*beep beep beep*

*beep beep beep*

*beep beep beep*
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None of the tweets sent out by gog had malicious intent.
I can go with that, though I will add that the last one looks like tone-deaf professional incompetence, while the one for the Postal-series game was just plain poor judgment.
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PanzerFranzz: I would ask you to examine the study in question more closely. You are missing the point, which is that 80% of the population think that political correctness suppressing free speech is a problem and only 7-8% see no problem with the way in which it suppresses free speech. That 80% includes a lot of people on the left and liberals. I'm not talking about them, I am talking about this tiny minority, the same sort of people who support the suppression of Linko90's free expression for no other reason than to try and scare the other 92% into suppressing their free speech as well.

I heard a Polish person say once something to the effect that: "You know when communism started to fall in Poland? It was when the Pope visited and was greeted spontaneously by millions in the street. These millions of people turned around and looked at each other (gathered together in free assembly and expression) and realized that THEY were the majority." Before then, it was easy for them to forget that given the chilling effect of marxist propaganda, which made a tiny group of activists seem mainstream in Polish society.

The parallels to our current situation are enlightening.
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SirPrimalform: The number you have dialled has been disconnected.

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PanzerFranzz: Linko90 did nothing wrong. The joke was not controversial just because 7% of the population get worked up about it. The activists who define and police what a "controversial joke" to suppress free speech is what has caused this situation. And it is precisely my point that they need to be challenged on their assumptions and definitions, because they are not only wrong, but contradictory.

If your standard were actually applies evenly, people running half the corporate accounts on twitter should be fired. But they are not. Not because they are bad at PR, but because this isn't about PR, it's about politics.

I am struggling to understand how someone with 2,800+ "reps" can react so emotionally to the findings of a scientific study conducted by leftist academics.
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SirPrimalform: *beep beep beep*

*beep beep beep*

*beep beep beep*

*beep beep beep*
My post made several thought-out and supported points based on scientific reasearch and personal experience. I understand that challenging the idea that Linko90 did anything controversial by reminding everyone what a small part of the population actually thinks so undermines your entire arguement. To be honest, I don't think your respond adds anything to the conversation in this thread and again, am a bit shocked that someone with 2800+ "reps" so quickly resorts to rejecting academic research by making "beeping" noises rather then engage with the reality of the material at hand. Is it that you cannot rebutt the points made and are trying to distract from that, or do you geniunely think making "beeping" noises is a better way to argue your side? On the contrary, you have to understand that making "beeping" noises at people in the middle of a discussion is yet another reason why that 7-8% keeps getting smaller...