@ neob10

yah....
just when you think EVERYTHING is taken care of...
Down to natural disasters, fires, theft, WHATEVER.....

BANG !!! Smack in the face....POOF...

I didn't care about my clothes..
I didn't care about the fridge, the TV, the computers even...
Those I can ALWAYS get new ones...although I kept a vintage P-II for some older games...
(Hard to replace in good condition..and not every game likes emulators..)

@ Momo1991

Huh ?!?

I'm done debating this anyway...it's either gonna happen or not...
In short...would I pay $5 a month to keep my games collection in one piece (forever) ? YES
And DRM ?...well..all they really need is a server with name attached to software..

Saying "ZMacZ Furreh" (that's not my real name "Right to download and play "
with 6000+ titles....(and about that 6000+...those do NOT include any compilation CD/DVD's..nor my DVD collection..)
(fyi...I'm 40+...and yes I been buying software since I was 13...and yes....during the last 10 years it was kinda growing to ENORMOUS proportions....when I worked on the secondhand market....an average of 30+ games a month, not everything new, but sometimes very old...but in good shape..sometimes even stuff I already had,
but with something new about it....like metal cases, or Deluxe versions and stuff like that...or just to complete stuff I already had with the belongings...cloth maps, paper maps, crypto cylinders...)

(I even bought a pallet of that stuff once...just to pick out the ones I did not have yet....great deal...I actually made a profit on it, selling the ones that were redundant.....not that I actually kept the money in my pocket, nooo, I spent it on ?...yup...more games...^^...)

Reading your posts, it sounds to me that you practically want GOG to be your dedicated online back-up storage for $5 a month. For ever.

Honest question - do I understand it correctly?

No exactly...
I want GOG to be THE source for older games, that will keep them forever, not just for me, but everyone else too..
So that when my kinda shizz happens to other people, they won't have to go through what I just been through...
Some people don't care about their games, simply because to them it's a sideshow at best..
I am a collector...I want my stuff to stay intact...not backed up on cheap CD's or DVD's..
I'm talking keeps, not stop gaps...
Did you know that the hardest thing to get back is not it's monetary value even ?
Nope...it's the loss of the stuff around it...the manuals, code-wheels, maps....
Those I'll never get back...but I'm over that now...
Now I'm just going for the software..
And I'm only gonna buy it if I'm convinced that the site will stay dish it out till the day I die....

And YES...I'll be burned to ash with my mouse in one hand, and the keyboard on my lap..with my other hand on top of that...

And even then...when I have a grandson...he'll inherit it all...and he'll pay $5 or maybe $10 by then or even $20,
to keep it intact...and have fun with it...
And that will make him one of the few people on the planet that'll be able to say "I know EXACTLY what my grandpa did when he was young and wanted to have fun...."

Christ I'm starting to sound like a "I-have-a-dream" speech wannabee...

just one more thing...

Do you guys on here have like a club or something ? For old games server hosting or something ?
I mean, when it comes to some older games, there's not exactly a lot of original players servers..
(not the mod communities that so far away from the original games that you kinda have trouble finding out which mod-patches to use etc...)
I mean like the Unreal Tournament (GOTY) players for instance ?...I seen it on here, and once I start buying stuff on here, it would be nice to find people to play with...or rather (heh heh heh..) to play against ?..
(And OHYEA...no-one hands me my ass on Hyperblast..)

(Just for comparison purposes...try a team match on the Hyperblast scene...15 bots on one team...you ALONE in the other team....set frag limit to 500...then kill them ALL without dying yourself once...no god mode/console commands....now if you can do that and think it was easy...try the bots at the 2nd skill setting....personally...I cap off at the 3rd.....but if you can do 2 it's already enough for a nice game....that is, if you don't mind losing a lot..)

(and yea...I'm an insomniac..kinda...meaning I do sleep..but not much..)

But under the current model you can always redownload. Once you buy, the game is in your account ready to download whenever you want.

I don't think you are understanding what I'm saying. For me and many other users, it is about the DRM. DRM-free is gog's branding, usually when people come here they expect drm-free on whatever they get. A subscription model fundamentally goes against it. One way they could get around it is setting up a sister site Good Old Subscriptions that sells a subscription to gog's through a client. I can see the attraction to wanting a gaming equivalent of a library.

For me my backups, are for my piece of mind. If I lose my backups I can always redownload from here. If gog goes out of business I still have my local copies. :)

No I haven't backed up floppy software, never had the need for it. When floppies were still relevant, I was a kid, backing up my software was the farthest thing from my mind. Thankfully, backing up software is nicer and with more storage. A 1TB hard drive doesn't take up much space and reasonably priced.

Sorry, idea is really bad. You ask me to pay a 3rd party money each month so they backup my stuff the best way they see fit. I have no idea what they may consider fit, nor how I can access said backups. Thus, I have all my games on 2 different hard drives and some of them also have online copies. The hard drives are one-time payment, the online storage has a monthly payment. However, I can sort those files as I like, access them however I like, have access to the hard drive backups without internet access and so on. As for losing a physical item, one hard drive is on site, one hard drive is off site. Standard backup practice.

Also, this way it is possible to retain a copy of items pulled from GOG.com, including the Mac version of Imperial Glory, or different versions of game soundtracks which may have been changed every now and then.

An extra point to consider. To have a monthly subscription, a site has to have your payment method on record. Currently, if someone gains access to my account, he will have access to a few hundred games, but no access to my payment methods. Thus while he will be able to play a shitload of games (assuming he has the time to download them before I find out my account is being used), he has no way of charging me.

I am not going to comment on the quality of the free games, mostly because I assume you are quite young, thus don't have fond memories of Savage Empire, Tyrian or Beneath a Steel Sky. Savage Empire for me is a game worth paying for, not only for the many hours of fun I had with it as a child, but also because it remains an excellent rpg to this day.

Finally, what happened to you promoting a payment service? And why were you promoting that any way?

I have 203 GOG games.
I want them to stay as they are.
I refuse to use any cloud service.
I'm not that big fan of Steam (I don't hate it but I'm not absolutely comfy with their business model)
I refuse to log into any service with obligatory monthly fee.
I think GOG games are of great quality.
I don't like the idea exactly because I have 203 games and a nice service\shop to lose!.

The only thing worse than the OP's idea are the people that went through and derepped all of his post. He wouldn't have gotten this much flack if he'd started a thread called "Hitler was right". Boggles the mind.

If you want to keep secure copies of your stuff, use SkyDrive. 37 EUR per year for 100GB of storage is not bad at all.

Still reading through the thread but couldn't let this go. Around 340 GOGs, can't tell you for sure because the wiki page is down and I don't want to count them manually. Still saying no, or rather, no way in hell I'll pay for a subscription. EVER.

And now I'm done reading. To answer your question: MAYBE. But certainly not here.

GOG is an store, I buy my games there. It's nice enough that I can redownload them as many times as I want. But if I want to have a backup storage space online, as secure as I possibly could, I won't come to GOG. Because what I would want stored is not just videogames from GOG, but games from other sources as well as other digital stuff I collect (such as comics or TV series).

I might want an online storage space, and I travel a lot so it would certainly be useful, but I want one I can sort around and organize whatever way I want. THAT I might pay for. But please don't mix that with the store. I think TET was right on with his post.

Regarding it being optional, how it could bring on DRM and the slippery slope, it's been mentioned. And regarding how to keep GOG in operation, well, they could just keep selling new games, don't you think? If they want 5$ a month from me, then keep releasing games that are worth just that and make me spend that money. Or rather, keep doing so.

Not sure what you mean by this?

Steam have removed games from their catalogue, but it is not for 'economizing', but due to licensing and rights of sale issues. However, those who have bought the games before they have been removed from the catalogue, still have access to those games in their library.

Gog have the same issue, there are several games removed from the catalogue here for the same reason to.

Regarding the OP. I do have a couple of games from here, and I do tend to spend more that $5 a month. However, I do not like the subscription based idea, as I feel it limits my options and choice to when I want to spend my monies. One month I may spend $20-$30, then it can be a couple of months before I buy anything again.

I like to do what I want, and if I subscribed I would feel I was losing out if I did not use the service enough that month, likewise I would feel that I cheated if I used it to much another month.

Re. "would you not pay to make sure your library stays safe" - that feels a lot like blackmail... Anyway, if there is any problems, just get a external HD and download all your games to it, no need to pay any subscriptions. Other than that, I try to play all my games and I tend to feel that I have got my money worth out of them, so if they disappear I would not feel too sad. I can get them again somewhere else, and my favorites I have on 2-3 different services by now.

tl.dr. No, thanks.

I'm kind of surprised he's not a spam bot after all.

EDIT: And what's with getting people to post yes in every thread he makes? Does he make money off that? :D

My last entry on this topic...READ..don't skim...make sure you understand...

It's NOT intriducing DRM...
It's not Cloud storage...
It's not about a fee that anyone has to pay MANDATORY...
It's not about using downloaders...
It's not about free games...
It's not about turning the way you are accustomed to GOG upside down...
It's not about making backups..
It's not about curtailing ur rights to do as you see fit with ur bought software...
It's not about taking money from your pocket without giving anything in return....

It's about long term viability for the GOG site and it's operation..
It's about teh long term availability of ALL bought software on the GOG site..

Now..know that I am no longer debating this any more...
I think of most replies maybe one or two have been usefull....and I hereby consider this a moot point from now on..

Thanks for the people who actually READ (not skimmed)...

Well...I thought it was a nice way to boost sales on here...
Nothing works better then a well kept site for keeping my (future) stuff safe...
It was Pay-By-Cash...they use localized versions of each countries payment options while
guaranteeing the money themselves...there's nothing better than a major CC company that says "Money.."
They act as go between making a lil off the top...which I don't really mind...since they also provide more
payment options for everyone (including me..)

Did I mention I hate PayPal ? They blocked a few of my prepaid vouchers once...
Then when I tried explaining they went all nuts, demanding all kinds of paper...
Why do I use prepaid CC's ? Cuz the method is SAFE....
Once the cash on it is gone, ALL payments thereafter bounce...
Nothing left to be had...so there's ZERO chance of waking up one day and finding ur CC in the red...
I'd SOOOOO hate that.....waking up in nice mood and going O.O...wdf?!?...I didn't order $$$$ worths shit..

Nope...for me...online payments are simple...no automatics...no attached bankaccounts...buy a voucher
the store...spend voucher or like most of it...then when hacker goes grabby they can still get 5-10 in club Fed...
For the low low price of maybe $10 ??? I'd call that saving out on law enforcement...

in any case...I got my E-mail account unblocked and now I just bought my first new game on here...
Unreal Tournament GOTY...guuuuuuddddd....
Wanna come and (try to) kick my ass ?......
I'll try anyone on Hyperblast...no redeemer, but with translocator....(I need those when I run off the ship..)