It seems that you're using an outdated browser. Some things may not work as they should (or don't work at all).
We suggest you upgrade newer and better browser like: Chrome, Firefox, Internet Explorer or Opera

×
Where and when will this be available?

1. Can it be pre-ordered.
2. Is it available after release as well?
No posts in this topic were marked as the solution yet. If you can help, add your reply
It was available after the release date reveal at E3. But it was sold out in after a few hours.

On Amazon GER it started to sell at 00:30 and was sold out at like 07:00.

I don't think it is available anymore at retailers.
You're right. I can't be wishy washy with my morals. Collector editions and pre-orders be damned.

That being said, I've been waiting for this when there was only a poster. I don't think I've wanted anything more than a proper cyberpunk game. I'm rather weak emotionally around this game :">.
avatar
ZaBici: You're right. I can't be wishy washy with my morals. Collector editions and pre-orders be damned.

That being said, I've been waiting for this when there was only a poster. I don't think I've wanted anything more than a proper cyberpunk game. I'm rather weak emotionally around this game :">.
As a fello Romanian i can tell you to keep you'r money man i charged back on my preorder coz

1.downgrade
2.remove of genders
3.remove of third person
and NOW
4.MICROTRANSACTIONS even do they said they will never do it !

just w8 for the review before you buy it cd pr is just doing what bethesda and others started and trust me i wold of preorderd ANY game from them but not anymore
avatar
ZaBici: You're right. I can't be wishy washy with my morals. Collector editions and pre-orders be damned.

That being said, I've been waiting for this when there was only a poster. I don't think I've wanted anything more than a proper cyberpunk game. I'm rather weak emotionally around this game :">.
avatar
JustStyle: As a fello Romanian i can tell you to keep you'r money man i charged back on my preorder coz

1.downgrade
2.remove of genders
3.remove of third person
and NOW
4.MICROTRANSACTIONS even do they said they will never do it !

just w8 for the review before you buy it cd pr is just doing what bethesda and others started and trust me i wold of preorderd ANY game from them but not anymore
2. Genders are not removed
3. Third Person wasn't removed, since it was never planned.

and now

4. No, no microtransactions. It was just a dumb translation error by the website and the whole internet has gone apesh*t instead of just waiting for some clarifications

https://www.gry-online.pl/newsroom/cyberpunk-2077-tryb-multiplayer-jest-na-wczesnym-etapie-tworzenia/z31d09e
Post edited November 28, 2019 by xgribbelfix
avatar
JustStyle: As a fello Romanian i can tell you to keep you'r money man i charged back on my preorder coz

1.downgrade
2.remove of genders
3.remove of third person
and NOW
4.MICROTRANSACTIONS even do they said they will never do it !

just w8 for the review before you buy it cd pr is just doing what bethesda and others started and trust me i wold of preorderd ANY game from them but not anymore
avatar
xgribbelfix: 2. Genders are not removed
Genders were removed, and as far as I can find still are. I have not heard any clear statement to the contrary from any authoritative source -- if you have, please link.
avatar
xgribbelfix: 2. Genders are not removed
avatar
cLaude83: Genders were removed, and as far as I can find still are. I have not heard any clear statement to the contrary from any authoritative source -- if you have, please link.
Do you have a link to the statement that genders were removed? They were expanded like this
Post edited November 27, 2019 by xgribbelfix
avatar
cLaude83: Genders were removed, and as far as I can find still are. I have not heard any clear statement to the contrary from any authoritative source -- if you have, please link.
avatar
xgribbelfix: Do you have a link to the statement that genders were removed? They were expanded like this
Well, for starters, there is the notorious Marthe Jonkers quote:
"Our character creation menu, for instance, compared to the last demo we now give you so many more options. For instance, you don't choose your gender anymore. You don't choose, 'I want to be a female or male character' you now choose a body type."
Ergo, there used to be an explicit choice of genders, that was removed and replaced by separate selectors for voice type and body type as you linked.

Therefore genders were removed, yes.

Furthermore, they were replaced by a system in which you can create unnatural abominations like a woman's body, a man's voice and god knows what gender, or a man's body, a woman's voice and god knows what gender.

The reason I asked you for a source, is that I am aware there has been a considerable amount of squabbling about whether Jonkers was authorized to say that, whether her answer is still correct, whether the interviewer quoted her incorrectly, bla bla bla. A lot of that stuff, but no authoritative making an explicit statement properly clarifying the matter, or offering retractions or apologies.
Post edited November 28, 2019 by cLaude83
The sex slider of the character is removed.

Well anyway.

Not worth my time anymore.
Post edited November 30, 2019 by xgribbelfix
avatar
cLaude83: Therefore genders were removed, yes.

Furthermore, they were replaced by a system in which you can create unnatural abominations like a woman's body, a man's voice and god knows what gender, or a man's body, a woman's voice and god knows what gender.
avatar
xgribbelfix: The sex of the character is removed. Gender is not defined by what is dangling between your legs. Gender is made up by what is dangling in your head.

That whole transgender talk is nothing new or nothing special. It's talked about so much right now, because those affected by it are now able to speak out, because it is now more accepted.

Transgender/Transsexuals/Trans.../Other genders are nothing new. Lola, for example, is 49 years old. That's "only" about a transvestite, but being uncomfortable/unsure in ones gender is nothing new.

That whole making "unnatural" abominations is part of the whole Cyberpunk stuff. You are able to modify everything on your body. Cyberpunk is about unnatural abominations and how they affect society etc.
I wrote a nice detailed reply, but GOG removed it, because you are not allowed to use the correct medical English words for parts of the human anatomy [Stop censoring already CDP, you're Polish, wtf is wrong with you?!]... And since I didn't save a copy, its all gone now :"( Therefore I'll give you a short and less thorough reply, as I really don't have time to reconstruct the whole thing from memory.

Firstly, I agree with you that what Jonkers should have said was that 'sex' was removed from the game, but she did not: she explicitly said 'gender' was removed. So there is not arguing that in some sense gender (when abusing terminology in the same way CDPR do) was removed from the game.

Secondly, Jonkers is abusing the term 'gender', but so are you: gender is not "made up by what is dangling in your head". Gender is nothing more or less than a grammatical classification of nouns into three groups (male, female and neuter), as you see in almost every language. They might as well be red, blue and green, or animal, vegetable and mineral, or any other trinity (such as quark or lepton flavours). The term gender never had anything to do with the '(wo)manhood' or '(wo)manliness' of anyone or anything, until after the second world war. The only relation gender and sex have, is that names for things of (fe)male sex, tend to be nouns of the (fe)male gender.

Thirdly, the "whole transgender talk" is absolutely something new. It is not the result of some previously non-existent liberty to talk about ones sexual perversions, deviancies and disorders. It is a relatively recent concept that was not widely entertained until years after the war -- my guess is somewhere in the late 1960s or early 1970s.
Over the last few decades it has been so thoroughly promoted and pushed, that people have erroneously started to believe it is a non-issue, and that the concept is normal and has always existed.

Finally, I agree that the cyberpunk setting lends itself well to some measure of defiling of the human body, but only to an extent. Currently, we can stimulate the growth of a clitoris into a fake p.e.n.i.s, or chop of a p.e.n.i.s and sew it inside out as a fake v.a.g.i.n.a. Perhaps by 2077 we will be able to transplant functional testes and ovaries (though I doubt it), but we will still not be able to change the chromosomes in every single cell of the human body from XX to XY or vice versa. Therefore, distinguishing the two sexes will still be meaningful.
Now, let us be very lax and assume that for the purpose of a game -- which honestly shouldn't include this type of topics anyway, since it is supposed to be entertainment -- we will be able to change chromosomes en mass by 2077. Then that still only constitutes a sex change, which is still going to be mutually exclusive.

To avoid covering too much of the same ground, I would like to refer you to my discussion with Aragnarok_Rider, which starts here: https://www.gog.com/forum/cyberpunk_2077/yongyeah_explains_why_the_cyberpunk_2077_controversies_are_bs/post12
Post edited November 28, 2019 by cLaude83
Well anyway.

Not worth my time anymore.
Post edited November 30, 2019 by xgribbelfix