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Once agian, if you must have a 3rd-party "achievement" in order to enjoy a game, you can simply make your own.

Take some post-it notes and write "killed a boss" or "won the game" or "spent 100 hours" or whatever, and just stick it to your monitor.

It has the exact same effect: nothing.
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yogsloth: Once agian, if you must have a 3rd-party "achievement" in order to enjoy a game, you can simply make your own.

Take some post-it notes and write "killed a boss" or "won the game" or "spent 100 hours" or whatever, and just stick it to your monitor.

It has the exact same effect: nothing.
That's not the same thing, and it doesn't have the same effect for people who like Achievements. And for people who do like them, the effect isn't nothing. We receive pleasure from earning Achievements just the same as everyone else receives pleasure for accomplishing goals in any game.

The devs who make Achievements are also not a "third party," they are the primary party and original source.

As well, Achievements are certified by the game itself and sharable with anyone else online. The post-it note suggestion is not.

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mqstout: They also destroy immersion when they occur.
Users who have that feeling can disable Achievements on their own machines, and then they won't destroy immersion or occur any more. That feeling is no reason to deprive Achievements from other users who do like them.
Post edited July 28, 2018 by Ancient-Red-Dragon
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ScoutQo: Why does it matter to you so much what others deem worth pursuing? Do you hail from Nazi Germany?
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mqstout: Take a step back and look at Yeshu's post. Yeshu is seriously, empathically, concerned for these people harming their own experiences because of the achievement system. That's a positive human trait, to care when there's an obvious problem.
Policing others' non-criminal desires is authoritarian. And he's doing more than caring -- he wants to remove achievements altogether. I am a well-rounded individual who knows how to relax and enjoy a game AND enjoy chasing achievements.

So take away achievements from those you think are allowing it to destroy their enjoyment of the game and you're taking it from people like myself who think of achievements as part of their enjoyment of the game. I enjoy having achievements as a bonus.

You're the one who needs to take a step back, my friend. You, nor Yeshu have a right to remove something because you think you know what's best for me.
Post edited July 28, 2018 by ScoutQo
Easiest way to trigger people on the GOG forums? Say you like achievements.
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ScoutQo: All platforms should have achievements. Gives players incentive to use the platform. But they need to go further and give us rewards within the platform itself. Wallpapers, badges, avatars, something. Discounts even, for the rarer achievements. It can be a really cool mechanic if enough thought is put into it.

Why do you need a virtual pat on the head for finishing a quest in a game?
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Yeshu: There is a difference between finishing a quest, ending a story arc and seeing it conclude in the game and having a pop up in the game saying "yay you did something you normally do in a game! have a medal!".

Playing a game should be enjoyable by itself and not by some Pavlov's dog psychology tactics.
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misscrabtree456: Because GOG is second class by a mile, that's why. I used to like GOG, but they are so lame now (they only allow fanboy drivel for there reviews) I would rather use Steam even though I don't really like Steam. At least they have honest reviews. If you don't have negative reviews, they are worthless. So yeah, devs rightly have no respect for GOG.
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Yeshu: Steam... honest reviews... you never heard of meta bombing have you?
It's way better than banning negative reviews, what do you get out that, bright boy.
Pretty sure it's because GOG Galaxy isn't necessary - and the GOG market isn't dependent on Achievements and Cards like Steam's... which I find truly fortunate. Steam has a lot of terrible games that are being played solely due to their achivements or cards...
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CARRiON-XCII: Easiest way to trigger people on the GOG forums? Say you like achievements.
I like achievements!

Not the worthless ones though. I like them for stuff like "beat Deus Ex Human Revolution without killing anyone." It gives me a special challenge and a little badge that says I passed said challenge, which I like. It's not a huge deal and is worthless to others, but it's cool. 99% of them are worthless stuff, but some are neat like that.
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Ancient-Red-Dragon: Even the "official list" about devs/games that treat GOG users like second-class citizens omits all the games that do this (of which there are legions), though it ought not to, because all of the games that have Achievements on Steam but not GOG are treating GOG users like second-class citizens.
The list maintainer doesn't consider it big enough issue. If you do, maybe you should make a list of Galaxy games missing achievements.

I don't care for achievements, and I definitely am against the idea that some games wouldn't be released on GOG at all because the developer won't create Galaxy achievements. The GOG gamecards already now tell whether the game has support for achievements or not, so people who care about them, should check the gamecard before purchasing the game.

So yeah, developers can add achievements to GOG games if they want, but IMHO it shouldn't be a requirement to release a game on GOG. For those customers that require them, there is already a way to check for their existence. Maybe GOG could add a filter to show only games with achievements (and cloud saving etc.), fine by me.
Post edited July 29, 2018 by timppu
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mqstout: Take a step back and look at Yeshu's post. Yeshu is seriously, empathically, concerned for these people harming their own experiences because of the achievement system. That's a positive human trait, to care when there's an obvious problem.
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ScoutQo: Policing others' non-criminal desires is authoritarian. And he's doing more than caring -- he wants to remove achievements altogether. I am a well-rounded individual who knows how to relax and enjoy a game AND enjoy chasing achievements.

So take away achievements from those you think are allowing it to destroy their enjoyment of the game and you're taking it from people like myself who think of achievements as part of their enjoyment of the game. I enjoy having achievements as a bonus.

You're the one who needs to take a step back, my friend. You, nor Yeshu have a right to remove something because you think you know what's best for me.
At what point did i said that I want to REMOVE something? I just stated my opinion on achievements and there pointlessness. It's you guys that somehow started to talk about Nazis.
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zLokooz: Why developers don't make achievements for GOG Galaxy? It's so hard?
I don't know and one would probably have to ask the devs this question but I guess it's not because it's too hard. Achievements are basically like logging messages from a complexity point of view, so fairly simple. GOG devs cannot have screwed that up.

I personally don't need them and am happy with the way it is. Never really looked at achievements for any game, I think.