Sure, but I'd argue that none of that would matter if the store couldn't attract new games.

Both, but if I had to choose, I'd probably choose Ubi.

I may have to make a similar multi-forum post about trying to nudge EA to release more game here though.

I've made request threads previously for years on EA Answers, though not recently. So probably nothing will happen but we're all aware of that by now ;)

These are both very good points.



Use of contracts is a very standard and key part of doing business, and pretty much always has been. It's absolutely inconceivable that a company the size of GOG/CDPR would not be using contracts to clearly set out what the responsibilities/obligations are with publishers it is doing business with.

I think Ubi is easier as we got Rayman Origins and I don't think we have got anything NEARLY as current from EA.

I would like to see us get the entire crop of Assassin's Creed up to Origin.


For me though I would rather get more Sega stuff esp. Atlus' back SMT catalog. GOG seems to have done well with Konami and I could see Silent Hill 3 and the Suikoden 1 and 2 HD Collection come. Konami must think their retro does well as they gave us the Contra and that other collection.

Mirror's Edge is only a few years older. And they actually released an update for it in 2020. There was even a bit of a love-in when they re-released Ultima Underworld 1+2, Syndicate Plus and Syndicate Wars in 2021.

If you ask me, getting another game from EA is much more likely than Ubi at this point.

Sorry I was just thinking of more current titles. I would love Far Cry 3 and 4 frankly.

A handful of new EA games, such as the Dead Space remake, do not even feature EA app integration on Steam, so there are less technical excuses for avoiding GOG too... well besides Denuvo anyway,

If you have a bit of time to spare, please vote on the GOG community wish list, as well as upvote and comment on the GOG Thread on Ubisoft's Discord server. All instructions can be found here.

Yes, I understand that's how businesses work.

What I'm saying is that they likely approached each other in good faith using the contract as a template. People are less likely to work with you if you come off the bat demanding this and that and pointing legal contract clauses especially when there are bigger and easier platforms to work with out there like Steam, which gives you total autonomy except for releasing illegal or troll games. It's just bad business practice. Not that the IOI/Hitman scandal was ever justifiable of course and that line has been made clear with GOG users.

Hell, even the GOG user agreement is done in good faith. There's a level of trust they give you to not abuse their policies. And I don't hear of other users exploiting regional pricing getting banned. I'd imagine they have the same casual approach to their devpubs too with regards to DRM and update parity, much to the dismay of some users here.

If we get the Dead Space remake I want the OG PC version fixed with the DTS added that the PS3 version had.

Personally, I'd rather get Dead Space 2 and 3 than the remake.

With all respect, what are you basing this on?

I think it's highly unlikely that GOG and IOI simply made a 'good faith' verbal agreement and then just signed a template contract as an afterthought. For a start, that's not how large businesses work. Secondly, I am community moderator for another (smaller) online game store, and the owners there often talk about contract negotiations with publishers being challenging/taking a long time. That store (which I won't name explicitly) is probably at best 1/20th the size of GOG. So if they are entering into detailed contract negotiations with publishers, there is next to no chance that GOG isn't. And, if that's the case, I see no reason why GOG wouldn't/shouldn't push for clauses in the contract relating to DRM-free (seeing as they are a DRM-free store).

Another point is that, based on what I hear through the 'grape vine', the amount of 'good faith' in the video games industry is close to zero.

Honestly while we probably will never know what happen exactly I am personally pretty sure that there is no "missing DRM-free clauses" or other good faith / bad faith contract.

IMHO it was simply a case of :

- Gog thought that the fact that the game was playable offline from beginning to end was enough to call it DRM-free and publish it here.

- There was push back from the community because of the amount of online only content which forced Gog to remove the game from sales.

- They asked IOI if it was possible to make some of this content available offline.

- IOI most likely didn't want to spend time and resources to convert online features to offline, especially not for a small store like Gog.

- As a result the contract between IOI and Gog was cancelled.

The end

Thank you, couldn't explain it better. Never attribute malice when it can be explained by incompetence (or neglect). This cuts down on a lot of noise. Without actual proof, we'll never know the truth though.

EDIT - If you want an idea of their approach, here's an example ("trust", "warm up to us", "convince", "super happy to be working with us", you get the gist) - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VEM_aJfmrKA&t=08m45s

Anyway back to topic, I've added annual plots with a past 3 year average to understand how good/bad a particular year is. To get values, simply click on the graph and hover over the data points.

Let me know if there are other trends/KPIs we should be looking at.

Q3 results are out now:
https://www.cdprojekt.com/en/investors/result-center/
As expected, for Q3 GOG had a 90% year-on-year increase in revenue. GOG revenues for the quarter were 83.7 million zloty, and profit was 7.59 million, the profit rate was 9.1%. CDP group's Q3 revenues were also an all-time historical high.

Cool, thanks for the info. :) Seems it's almost $2 million in profit.

I original suggested "minimum guarantee"ing to get more big-name games here, but maybe the priority really should be fixing the site, improving installers, and related issues (hiring more staff for that purpose if need be).