I'll co mod (for ZFR or anyone else who needs it), I'm sure I can find the time for that.

I would see this as being a mod / co-mod responsibility to some extent. If a player asks you / tells you the context to something is not clear I can see a mod in all fairness either posting links to sources or encouraging the player to ask in game for same. Fundamentally whoever said something obscure is either lying and knows they can be caught by research, or is telling the truth and may just not have the time themselves to prove it.

The individual mentor / tutor idea however also seems fine, just not sure we have enough ppl to do it. For example although I'd be happy to help ZFR out, I only really started lurking "late" and any contexnt between Vitek, Joe, SirPrim, Ele and Flub is totes lost on me as well.

Ah... QT would not work for me though. I forgot I need to VPN into it, and I just can't be arsed to VPN from work, or really from wherever. Too much marginal hassle when I already feel conflicted about the time engagement. Come to think of it, this means I shouldn't be playing at all... if I rand Maf I might screw the team hugely... :( Shit... I was thinking of jumping in for the next one. :( Ok whatever, if it happens it happens and I can lone wolf like the best of them... hehehehe

PS: I would expect the same mentor could handle several newbies.
There used to be a queue, it just got shorter and shorter recently. I'm sure it will come back. Maybe you can post a placeholder one to help? I confess I haven't tracked volunteers...

Good. I saw MU went that way or tried to. I don't think this is enforceable and would only lead to abuses.
Overall I think mods should be more oriented towards ensuring the players are positively engaged.

The avatars and titles... less sure. Easier to enforce at least, but I think the beef I'd have with it is the impermanence. In a way it's like editing posts. You could have all sorts of untraceable and later invisible communication that way where only a few players would be "in the loop". I mean, I felt the temptation to kick someone under the table while in Resistance, or wink at someone in particular. But even that is more open and liable to be caught IMO than somethign like this. YEah, I guess after writing it down I;d support it being an actual rule that it should NOT be done.

Edit: should not be done while IN game. Before randing the role go nuts...

Sure, sure:

PLACEHOLDER HOSTING QUEUE (updated 30th July, 13:23 GMT+1)
#interest post -- person (gametype) - start

1. #4398 -- Vitek (???) - ???
2. #4439 -- Joe (???) - ASAP?
3. #4454 -- ZFR & CoMod TBC (???) - August/September
4. #4460 -- zeo (nonTrad) - ???
5. #4461 -- ele (open setup) - September

Co-moderation:
1. #4458 -- Bookwyrm
2. #4462 -- adaliabooks

Edit to add this is an UNOFFICIAL queue list for summary purposes only. Please refer to post 2 of this thread for the real queue!

I think people that want meta out of the game are the exact people that should just develop meta-building skills and win games that way. It just becomes another lever for them to pull. :)


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From the game thread, pulling it here
https://www.gog.com/forum/general/gog_mafia_reboot_battlestar_goglactica/post1548

This is not Hijack... It's Bler in the linked game thread... leaving it like this bcos lazy.

+1000

I loved the flavor and setup uncertainty of many games here. That's what pulled me in eventually. However GOG is almost addicted to that? Breaking it up with more open or semi-open setups would IMO help bring new players in and provide a different sort of experience - less "burnouty". I don't think it's a coincidence that non traditional Mafia like Resitance or Secret Hitler managed to "stick" while the trad games were going through a very long participation rut.

So let's embrace the power of AND and mix it up I say.

I will say though, that the downside with open games is they can be less engaging and become more mechanically locked. One aspect that the non trad mods may forget is that although you don't have time limits for the phases, maybe you should, because in person the social pressure to move on is huge. But in writing... pfff...

Interesting, is there any reason you can't use QT?
I only ask I was got banned at one point (mid game where I was scum, the cult one if I remember right) because my IP had been wrongly associated with spamming or something.
But I emailed the quicktopic support and they fixed it and unbanned me, so something similar might work for you.

Something like that. So how exactly do you contact them? Through the VPN?

If I remember rightly I could still access it on my phone using it's data because it was a different IP and I just contacted support using the contact link at the bottom of the page.
Presumably if you did the same via VPN and told them your normal IP they should be able to sort it out.
I could still read QTs (and open and post in my own), just not post, when banned, so if you can't even open the website it might be something different, but worth contacting them anyway.

Yeah it flatout gives me a 403 Forbidden on any QT link, also homepage. And not just at home, also from work.
Still, ok... I'll try to reach them. Thanks for the encouragement mate.

It's just I never like Support mail chains. And I especially get triggered about about getting banned from online places - if that's what is is ofc.

It's odd that you can't access it from work as well.
Support were fairly helpful (it was only one or two emails and not tons of back and forth) so they might be able to sort out your issue too, if it can be sorted out.

A quick Google search shows a few results for places like Thailand which seem to censor QT, but assuming you are in Poland I've never heard of any censoring they do.

Semi-open setup for me. C9++ with a twist if I can get that many players, and if comod confirms twist won't cause blancing issues.

It is good thing I am so forgettable.

How does semi-open set-up work? You give a list of possible power roles but don't say which are included?


The set up that I'd like to do the most (currently - though I do keep changing my mind) has PoppyAppletree and SirPrimalform as a target audience... if they can't play the game if I start now maybe I could bump my slot down one?

It's not that no-one except Pat and Spaff would enjoy it! But they're the only ones I know for sure who are fans.

If we need a game starting immediately I can use a different set-up and try and hold on to my enthusiasm for this one. Actually my others are good too, should I just make a sign up board right now?

Current GOGFather would like to announce to you that he doesn't give a shit about new rules.
He doesn't intend to enforce them in any way.
Then GOGFather is also making himself to have more power than he has or ever had.
It was account made only to manage this thread so more people than OP can edit admin posts. It was never intended to enforce rules. Those very few we had were just some things we mutually agreed on to prevent things that could damage integrity of the game. It was supposed to be something people just respect and is not enforced by force.
I don't see any of these things to fall in this category.

Over time we were forced to take part in more serious problems in the community and I apologize to people I dragged into GOGFathering. They expected only to handle admin things like sending notifications and updating OP when I am not around and instead they had to bother themselves with various problems.

But now we are not interested in this anymore. We don't feel the need to police over things we don't even care much anymore.
So if will of the people wants it then enforce all rules you want. We are more than willing to give up GOGFather account and pass it onto anyone who wants it to establish any kind of "community" they want.
GOGFather account is here only to collect things people as group want so it is only logical GOGFather should be made from those people and it is not right now.

Vitek wanted to host a game!