Okay here I am at last, ready to place my vote.

Vote ded...

Oh.

Nevermind.

Now we wait for the mod. Again.

"You guys are dense! I don't have a notebook or tentacles!" Kitami shouted at the four classmates surrounding her.

Alita smirked. "Yeah, that's definitely believable."

Faye ruffled her hair. "Explain how Lina disappeared, then. I can't wait for the explanation."

"Hmph, it's because of you guys that I can't with anyone about anything. Can't wait to see you put to sle-"

"Stop it right there!" Haru was interrupted by Natsume-sensei. "Are you sure it's Reika-san? We don't have a class anymore, it's prudent to be careful about this."

Makise smiled. "Natsume-sensei, do you have any better ideas? I'm all for them."

The teacher stood there for a few seconds, hand on her chin, thinking about it.

"Natsume-sensei, you got to believe me. I can't do anything of that sort."

Natsume-sensei sighed. "Look, I've got a new power from the principal. Watch me use it." She tore a piece of paper out of her notebook, and scribbled something on it, then handed it to Kitami.

"I'm...what...?"

"Exactly what it says." Natsume-sensei stuck her tongue out. "I'm not in the mood to negotiate right now. Come back until we get this mess sorted out."

Kitami collapsed on her knees. "But I'm not it!"

Natsume-sensei tapped her shoulder. "If you're not it, I'll suspend your suspension, I promise." Then, she glared at her pupils. "Or would you rather get beaten up? We're not in Ancient Japan anymore."

While the rest of the classmates were puzzled by Natsume-sensei's... strange display of passive aggression, Kitami was crying too much to dwell too much about anything.

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Kitami Reika (dedoporno) has been temporarily suspended from school. She was Town Vanilla.

FINAL VOTECOUNT
dedoporno (4) - Lifthrasil (#758), Telika (#780), yogsloth (#808), catte (#809)

Not voting: dedoporno, joppo

In case there's any errors in the votecount, please let me know.

Night 4 has started. Please stop posting in this thread.
It will end on November 21, 6PM UTC.

I'd...rather get tossed into the volcanic depths of Fuji-san, thanks.

A new day at class. The situation is very tense. You could wait for Natsume-sensei to confirm it, but there was no need to wait for answers.

Haru Akemi (yogsloth) has been hospitalized. She was Town Mason.

The teacher eventually comes, sighs heavily, and then started teaching hte next lesson in the most dispassionate way possible. It was kind of heartbreaking, really, to see Natsume-sensei turn from putting her all into her job with a radiant personality, to just going through the motions.

"God I'm so done with this shit." She muttered under her breath.

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Ah well, Scum has basically won. Well played, whoever you are. Let's see, I will not consider Catte as Scum - another read falsifying role in this small setup in addition to the Godfather would be very bad game design and I don't think Pooka went for a bastardy setup. So it's either Telika or Catventurer/joppo. Of these two, Telika was the even more towny and seemed honestly invested in the scum hunt throughout the game. So, by matter of exclusion, it must be joppo. Even though Catventurer appeared to be towny.

Of course for all of you the logical choice is me. For scum I am the logical choice because they know that my lynch will doom Town. For Town I am the logical choice since I was universally seen as less Towny than either Telika or Catventurer. @Telika and Catte: I know that my lynch would be a mislynch - and the fatal one at that. But of course I would say the same if I were scum. So it's up to you two to decide the game.

vote joppo

I'd go with the logical lynch, which is Lifth, and also because at this point if I contribute to mislynch someone else than Dedo's own suspect, I put my physical integrity in jeopardy. Still I'll do a re-read.

Catte scum, indeed, I'd blame the setting and what would be Catte's lurky antiplay. Catven/Jop, well, I don't really feel it, mostly because all of Cat's moral outrage would have been a bit of a cynical card to play for a role dedicated to lying.

So I'll have to re-check my notes and maybe re-read the game once before casting a vote that could result in a hammer so quickly..

Well, the NK was no surprise, tho I suppose it just as well could have been Catte.

Lift's attack on me is no surprise either. By exclusion it cannot be anyone but him*; and he knows his only chance of victory is somehow arranging a mislynch of me. Holding back now is not an option anymore so he's coming in as aggressively as he can.

* In theory it could be Telika but no one in their right mind would believe it's him. He's a townie alright.

During the night I re-read some of Lift's interactions with Buck and Joe. One series of posts jumped at me and I will repeat them below. The whole thing seems staged and as artificial as the orange flavor in a Fanta bottle.

Not much to see here. Joe's first post that day only came after the hammer. There's no reason to think that he wasn't just late. It wouldn't be anything noteworthy if it stopped here, but eventually they realize this is the opportunity for some distancing:


A while later Lift concludes that their little theater has fulfilled its goal and just pretends nothing happened.

And just like that all is forgiven and they're best buddies later.

All of that interaction above smells of calculated distancing.

vote Lift

Yare yare daze...

... or of a joke. Which you would see if you weren't trying so hard to justify your vote. Which you don't even need to do. You know, everyone expects you to vote for me, you don't need to make up reasons to do so. Unless, of course, you feel the need to do so. Just like you feel my last post to be 'aggressive' for some reason. I wonder, would a Towny see that post as aggressive too? Or is there the knowledge of your own guilt (by role) talking?

@Catte and Telika: so far the Day went as expected. I invite you to go over the interactions yourself and make up your mind. Catventurer played the Townie very good. But does joppos post fit to him having inherited a Town role? Or might be not be the last scum after all.

Also, on D1 I was hopping around, yes, as I often do on D1. Town doesn't have anything solid on D1. Scum does. But apart from that you can decide for yourself whether I was scumhunting or faking it. I was wrong, yes, but then again dedo really appeared to be very scummy. As did Scene and Frost. In Scene's case that is normal. In mine as well (I only appear to be towny when I'm scum, because I care more about assistances then). But in dedo's case the scumminess was new and looks off, even on looking back at his posts.

That NK came as no surprise whatsoever. Lift's doomsaying and voting for Jopventurer out of the gate doesn't look good. I get the PoE thought process, but I don't get how that could make you confident enough to vote in your first post of the day.

I'd suggest a no lunch today if we had no confirmed players, but we all know the scum would kill me if we gave them another night.

Lift seems like the most likely scum, even moreso based on his first post today.

Easy: lack of alternatives. Which won't change throughout the day. You are a no-go, since you are certified by cop (otherwise I would prefer to vote you). If Telika is scum, it would be a deserved win - in other words, I solidly believe Telika to be Town. I know that I'm Town. That leaves Joppo. Joppo also has only one target available. For you and Telika things are a bit more difficult because you have to decide whom to vote for and depending on that we will either win or lose. Either way, the game should end today, because as you say, doing no-lynch will not improve things for Town.

Read half of it so far. For the time being, my firm opinion is that there are no mafiosi left and we've won two nights ago. Also I've decided that I'll host a bastard game with no scum at all, just letting townies lynch each others till the end, twilight-zone-like.

Currently, my opinions are... emotional ? Ideological ? Catte being the least unscummy, it would be an inelegant win for an inelegant setting (we'd all be "we knew it we knew it, but"). Lifth could be elegantly scum. Cat as a scum would have brought in too much IRL outrage and drama for a profoundly unserious posture (the mafia position of ditching reality and lying instead).

So I'm still heading towards a Lfth bet, for aesthetic reasons.

But still have half a reread to go through.

I've voted Dedo based on that kind of stuff, so... :-/

Aaaaanf I'm still entirely baffled at to what happened with buck's false claim and lynch. Can't read strategies there. And scum had daychat, ffs. Was joe looking for clearance through bussing, hesitating between Buck and Lifth ? But... How was it not pre-planned ? If pre-planned, a mafia sacrifice to identify cop with obvious fake claim ? Was Lifth supposed to do it but didn't get enough heat to justify a claim ? Or was it just Buck going rogue ?

Let's... let's imagine.. gaah... that the day plan WAS bringing heat to a mafioso to justify a fake claim sacrifice and smoke a cop out in exchange for 1/3rd of the team (plus some good townie points to its bussers).

319 Joe ==> Lifth (brings to 2/6)
323 Lifth ==> Joe (brings to 1/6)
342 Cat ==> Scene (brings to 1/6)
382 Lifth ==> Scene (brings to 3/6)
489 Lifth ==> Joe (brings to 3/6)
492 Buck ==> Joe (brings to 4/6)
496 Lifth -/-> Joe (brings back to 2/6, after Dedo unvoted and brought back to 3/6)
505 Lifth ==> Scene (brings to 1/6)
543 Joe ==> Catte (brings to 3/6)
550 Joe ==> Lifth (brings to 2/6)
562 Buck ==> Lifth (brings to 3/6)
585 Joe ==> Buck (brings to 4/6)
*buck claims and gets counterclaimed, so the rest is a bit irrelevant*
590 Joe ==> Lifth (brings to 2/6)
595 Joe ==> Buck (brings to 3/6)
605 Lifth ==> Buck (brings to 5/6)
609 Cat ==> Buck (brings to 6/6)
619 Catte ==> Buck (brings to 8/6)

Okay this is going super nowhere.

To be fair, I didn't express myself with the best words I could, because it was 2AM and I was half asleep. When I said "aggressive" I should have said you were "incisive" but my brain was refusing to work at the time. Whatever. I said what I said.

Another thing my brain-on-strike refused to remind me of was a mental note I made earlier during my re-read that I should point out the sudden tone shift in Joe's #319. He suddenly stops being his laid back joking self to bicker with you. This is not "making up reasons to explain my vote", it's me pointing out things that could tip the uncertainty in Telika or Catte's mind.

I would say I didn't have the time to even make a proper impression, whether good or bad. Real world constraints, plus we already had a path laid out in front of us when I joined.
If you're analyzing solely from D4 forward, Catte, Yog and you have done just as poorly. We all thought Dedo looked scummy and didn't look for scum elsewhere. In my opinion only Telika was an asset for Town (posts #760-761).
So I agree @catte and @telika go ahead and judge my behavior. I believe that by the same metric Lift is still going to come out as the most scummy of us (thankfully as he's bound to be the last mafioso).

This I agree with. There's no doubt over either Catte or Telika. My only possible suspect now is Lift and his only suspect is me.
In the event where Telika is the last scum he deserves the win and I won't feel bitter for losing to someone who played so well.


I was out of the game at the time and found that so confusing.
I had been thinking their original plan involved getting Buck investigated. So he tried to display some scumminess but then he overdid it and had to claim while EoD was getting close and lynch was a real possibility, so he decided to at least smoke out the cop. Or he panicked.

FTFY ;-)


Well, there is nothing I could write that I wouldn't write as scum as well. So I leave the game in Telika's and Catte's hands.