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Posted January 16, 2012
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SirPrimalform: nmillar is... well, nmillar. You haven't yet elaborated on your opinion of Damn which.. ugh, I don't know.
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nmillar: You're experienced enough to know why I haven't elaborated further.
I'm not, though...care to explain?
Posted January 16, 2012
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jefequeso: I'm not, though...care to explain?
He might have done something to get that info, like he might have judged Damnations posts, made a statistical schema in hos notes to prove it or something else entirely. .. figure out yourself and no more rolefishing ;) Or
Posted January 16, 2012
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Red_Baron: He might have done something to get that info, like he might have judged Damnations posts, made a statistical schema in hos notes to prove it or something else entirely. .. figure out yourself and no more rolefishing ;) Or
That's actually the third example of rolefishing in the last couple of days. First Robbeasy, followed quickly by NotFrenchYet and now jefequeso ... Now, that's interesting ...
Posted January 16, 2012
Now how on earth is that rolefishing?
Posted January 16, 2012
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jefequeso: Now how on earth is that rolefishing?
You're asking me to reveal how I got my information.
Posted January 16, 2012
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jefequeso: Now how on earth is that rolefishing?
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nmillar: You're asking me to reveal how I got my information.
But I never did. You said you are blatantly laying blindingly obvious traps nmillar, and then using that to cast suspicion on people. I would have thought better of you, because I don't consider that the play of someone who is town.

You CANNOT come out with something like 'Damnation is town' and expect it to go uncommented on - theres no way on this earth it can be taken at face value, because you are too experienced a player to do something so blatant.

So I have to ask myself why you would do something like that. And I can only think of one reason - to cause confusion, sew distrust and use it as a weapon to attack the innocent with.

My vote on you stands.
Posted January 16, 2012
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SirPrimalform: nmillar is... well, nmillar. You haven't yet elaborated on your opinion of Damn which.. ugh, I don't know.
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nmillar: You're experienced enough to know why I haven't elaborated further.
Yes, and I'm also experienced enough to know it could be complete bollocks. No one can verify your information right now, so stating things like 'Damn is town' is an invitation for wine.
Posted January 16, 2012
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jefequeso: Now how on earth is that rolefishing?
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nmillar: You're asking me to reveal how I got my information.
No, I'm asking you to explain this:

"You're experienced enough to know why I haven't elaborated further."

I'm not asking you to elaborate further. I'm asking you to explain why you HAVEN'T elaborated further, which apparently everyone but me understands. It's a simple question.
Posted January 16, 2012
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SirPrimalform: No one can verify your information right now, so stating things like 'Damn is town' is an invitation for wine.
This. -_-; Asking for an elaboration of your "read" is rolefishing? If you're trying to stay hidden, what was to stop you actually pulling parts of Damn's posting which demonstrate his towniness? Instead you clammed up and deepened the mystery.

You're effectively saying that by doubting you, we're being scummy, when it's obvious that there's a quicker and easier explanation as to why you might be so sure.

That's a tactic which punishes the naivité of the new folks... :<
Posted January 16, 2012
Are we trying to set some kind of record here?

If the whole Rodzaju thing hadn't happened, I'd be willing to let this slide. But in this situation, I am not. I have no idea what it is you're doing here, nmillar. There was not a tiniest bit of pressure on you, yet you do this -- not exactly softclaiming, but it's a soft-something, alright.

It's the what, fourth example of someone volunteering information in this game? And yeah, I know I have said that scum are unlikely to try and make a gamble like this, which is why I'm inclined to believe them. But doing it after I've said that? That's pushing my trust a little bit too far.

Look, it's not rolefishing when we're asking you why on Earth did you say what you did. It's a perfectly natural reaction. But if you want to do a full Rodzaju on us, go ahead. But it's unlikely it will turn out well for your faction, whichever it is.
Posted January 16, 2012
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bazilisek: Are we trying to set some kind of record here?

If the whole Rodzaju thing hadn't happened, I'd be willing to let this slide. But in this situation, I am not. I have no idea what it is you're doing here, nmillar. There was not a tiniest bit of pressure on you, yet you do this -- not exactly softclaiming, but it's a soft-something, alright.

It's the what, fourth example of someone volunteering information in this game? And yeah, I know I have said that scum are unlikely to try and make a gamble like this, which is why I'm inclined to believe them. But doing it after I've said that? That's pushing my trust a little bit too far.

Look, it's not rolefishing when we're asking you why on Earth did you say what you did. It's a perfectly natural reaction. But if you want to do a full Rodzaju on us, go ahead. But it's unlikely it will turn out well for your faction, whichever it is.
Unfortunately, because of the way NotFrenchYet asked the question, I didn't really have any option but to answer the way I did. I know Damnation is town, vanilla in fact, but I have no evidence to back it up.

Well, I could have lied, but I definitely don't intend to go down the Rodzaju route.

I know of one confirmed town, one confirmed scum (which I was hoping to save in case we reached a LYLO situation) and a power role of unknown alignment.
Posted January 16, 2012
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nmillar: Well, I could have lied, but I definitely don't intend to go down the Rodzaju route.

I know of one confirmed town, one confirmed scum (which I was hoping to save in case we reached a LYLO situation) and a power role of unknown alignment.
You say you don't intend to go down the Rodzaju route and then start listing things.

...well, I guess you'd already painted a target on yourself with 'Damn is town'.
Posted January 16, 2012
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nmillar: Well, I could have lied, but I definitely don't intend to go down the Rodzaju route.

I know of one confirmed town, one confirmed scum (which I was hoping to save in case we reached a LYLO situation) and a power role of unknown alignment.
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SirPrimalform: You say you don't intend to go down the Rodzaju route and then start listing things.

...well, I guess you'd already painted a target on yourself with 'Damn is town'.
Rodzaju lied when he invented the Networker role; I am doing no such thing.

And yeah, I was hoping to keep my role hidden for a while longer, but NFY kind of trapped me with her question. Might as well get the information out there though; hopefully it will be for the benefit of town.

Damnation is Gabriel Bortez; he runs a cafe and was charged with possession 5 years ago.
Posted January 16, 2012
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SirPrimalform: You say you don't intend to go down the Rodzaju route and then start listing things.

...well, I guess you'd already painted a target on yourself with 'Damn is town'.
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nmillar: Rodzaju lied when he invented the Networker role; I am doing no such thing.

And yeah, I was hoping to keep my role hidden for a while longer, but NFY kind of trapped me with her question. Might as well get the information out there though; hopefully it will be for the benefit of town.

Damnation is Gabriel Bortez; he runs a cafe and was charged with possession 5 years ago.
By the Rodzaju route I meant throwing huge amounts of information at us for no reason. Which you're kind of continuing to do... the damage was already done though. Knowing Damn's name and some flavour isn't going to hurt town any more now.

THIS IS NOT A REQUEST FOR MORE INFORMATION, DO NOT GIVE MORE INFORMATION. THIS IS JUST THINKING ALOUD:
It does make me wonder though how you know his alignment, name and some flavour. If you were a flavour or role cop then the only reason you'd know alignment would be because you're mafia and therefore know who isn't.
Posted January 16, 2012
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SirPrimalform: Snip.
I'm not going to reveal anything else unless enough of a majority want the information out there.
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