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The original Soldier of Fortune 1 was extremely racist, which actually bothered me. Postal 2 insulted my intelligence. When I was younger I was offended by every WW 2 strategy game that let you play the German side.
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xxxIndyxxx: No, actually I tend to get a bit annoyed when people get offended by games. They take it way too seriously and i feel that an industry based on fun should not be taken too seriously or take itself too serious. Unfortunately it's going the wrong way and how bigger it gets how more serious it becomes and they tend to lose the fun-dementals. You can't get really creative if you have to think about every decision if you are gonna get suit or not....
That is exactly the reason why you should get offended. If a medium consumed by countless people is having a thinly veiled racist bias, than this is something that offends me.

And I'm nitpicking here. in SoF 1 killing US civilians was instant game over. Killing Iraqi civilians, no problemo. Message of the game: Iraqis are sub-human.
Post edited November 29, 2012 by SimonG
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jamyskis: What's bothered me more about this kind of outcry is the fact that there didn't seem to be much of an uproar about the earlier Tomb Raider games, which sexualised Lara Croft with her tits and her sensual groaning to the point of ridicule. As the TR series has gone on, she's taken on somewhat more realistic proportions, and has become a more fleshed-out personality.
There was. It even made magazine headlines. But as internet use was not as widespread back then as it is now, there were fewer people who complained about it publicly, and you were less likely to come into contact with such people.
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AFnord: There was. It even made magazine headlines. But as internet use was not as widespread back then as it is now, there were fewer people who complained about it publicly, and you were less likely to come into contact with such people.
Oh, I know there was the usual complaining from feminist and women's rights groups, and such complaining still persists to this day (as it does from PETA every time there's a game where animals are harmed).

But the disgust from the mainstream population was much more muted when it came to Tomb Raider.
I very often find games offensive to my intelligence.
Lately AssCreed 3. I *know* I have to jump on that tree to get to that wall, game, it's the only visible path. No, don't put a goddamn objective marker on it! No, don't obscure half of the screen with a reminder on how to climb trees AGAIN. Jesus christ.
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jamyskis: Oh, I know there was the usual complaining from feminist and women's rights groups, and such complaining still persists to this day (as it does from PETA every time there's a game where animals are harmed).

But the disgust from the mainstream population was much more muted when it came to Tomb Raider.
Well, at the time Tomb Raider came out, the mainstream population just didn't care about games. They mostly didn't know there was anything to be offended about.
A great many times. If the devs try to make a Statement, that Statement is usually offensive.
I can't stand Homefront. I think portraying another existing country as evil side of a war is mildly speaking rude, unless it's based on historical facts (WW2 games), it does not intend to take it seriously (Red Alert), or it provides some ambigurity between good or bad behind the war (Fallout).
In the end of the 80s to beginning of 90s there were hundreds of games all about slaughtering blacks, arabs and germans. (for example Commando Libya on c64, here remade in flash)

It didnt offend me then, I was too young and and it was seen as both comical and righteous in a bizarre perspective.
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xngxng: In the end of the 80s to beginning of 90s there were hundreds of games all about slaughtering blacks, arabs and germans. (for example Commando Libya on c64, here remade in flash)

It didnt offend me then, I was too young and and it was seen as both comical and righteous in a bizarre perspective.
zou were too fast, wanted to state that game as well... loved it when I was a small kis, when I was playing it on our family c64, but now I do understand what the game is about.
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xngxng: In the end of the 80s to beginning of 90s there were hundreds of games all about slaughtering blacks, arabs and germans. (for example Commando Libya on c64, here remade in flash)

It didnt offend me then, I was too young and and it was seen as both comical and righteous in a bizarre perspective.
*shoots everything in sight*

First blood!1
Again. =)
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AFnord: There was. It even made magazine headlines. But as internet use was not as widespread back then as it is now, there were fewer people who complained about it publicly, and you were less likely to come into contact with such people.
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jamyskis: Oh, I know there was the usual complaining from feminist and women's rights groups, and such complaining still persists to this day (as it does from PETA every time there's a game where animals are harmed).

But the disgust from the mainstream population was much more muted when it came to Tomb Raider.
At least here there were both talk about it in the local newspapers as well as in the gaming magazines about the view games and game makers had on women.
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Pemptus: I very often find games offensive to my intelligence.
Lately AssCreed 3. I *know* I have to jump on that tree to get to that wall, game, it's the only visible path. No, don't put a goddamn objective marker on it! No, don't obscure half of the screen with a reminder on how to climb trees AGAIN. Jesus christ.
I agree with you on this. A game should really not have to remind you how to do the same thing 4 times over the course of 10min. Yet they do (Kingdoms of Amalur, I'm looking at you)
Post edited November 29, 2012 by AFnord
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PandaLiang: I can't stand Homefront. I think portraying another existing country as evil side of a war is mildly speaking rude, unless it's based on historical facts (WW2 games), it does not intend to take it seriously (Red Alert), or it provides some ambigurity between good or bad behind the war (Fallout).
Here's a fun fact:

Originally in Homefront instead of being Invaded by Koreans the US was supposed to be invaded by China

Originally in Vanquish the people taking over the space station were supposed to be Chinese as well

Why the changes? Because of the "American Audiences" I think that speaks for itself
But doesn't many girls like Lara and Tomb raider? And why would a man be offended if some game girl has some boobs and the game is also in another way good?

Lara to endangered species: "Why are you hitting and shooting yourself?".

Good games. =)
The only game that has shocked me has been Spec Ops the Line. I tend not to find games offensive in all honesty.

Bit that got me on Spec Ops was where you were firing the White Phosphor to clear out the enemies in a town square type area, its nasty stuff and should never be used at all unless for lighting regardless. After using it you work your way through, its all smoky and hazy (feels kind of creepy with burnt corpses everywhere), it turns out that the crowds you were firing on were actually civilians.

Makes you feel really uneasy, didn't play it again until a few days ago after that.
For a good run down of a really offensive game, check out Extra Credits on PATV and their episode on Call Of Juarez: The Cartel. It's a really good dissection of everything that is worng with that trash.