https://www.pcgamer.com/dell-is-cancelling-alienware-gaming-pc-shipments-to-several-us-states/url]

Amazing.

Do you recognize what these six US states have in common?

Who cares? Alienware products are a scam and buying them is always a foolish decision.

So the threat of water conservation isn't enough, now they have to take away a form of entertainment because it may use a bit more power than you might like...

I wonder if i can modify my microwave to play DOOM on it, while using 5000 Watts to power it...

I anticipated this response from someone. Everyone is entitled to their opinion about brands but you missed the point.
I am not promoting Dell. Next time it could be your preferred brand. Ha ha. It's lunacy isn't it. You can't have a powerful computer but apparently running multiple air conditioners etc. is ok.
There is no logic to this restriction.

There's already a topic about it here: https://www.gog.com/forum/general/the_future_of_personal_computingor_how_california_maybe_just_maybe_will_regulate_builds_for_the/page1

Sorry.
I thought I practiced due diligence by searching "Alienware" and didn't see anything recent.
Could you find it in your heart to forgive me?

Part of the problem is that the numerous "forum Game" threads are occupying valuable space on the first few pages of this forum which prevents current and meaningful topics from being discovered.

Yes, it truly is some Good News, Everyone! They're all authoritarian sh*th....err very nice places to live? o.0 ;D

Jokes aside, I wonder what stuff (gaming related or no) they're gonna "ban" next for "muh environmental greater good".

- And the funny thing is, people can still find ways to build/obtain power hungry PCs in said states, making these "bans" meaningless(in terms of energy conservation and etc). Yeah, if I had the money and lived in one of those states, i'd likely also think about finding new ways to burn power just to spite them.

- They want to appear caring while likely doing next to nothing to help anything or anyone, and make more money through said regulations.

Yeah, as I said in the previous thread, this is literally a "cry into dollars" situation for Dell. If they can't meet a minimal power standard for an idling laptop, that really is their problem. It's not really that much of an ask to optimize power consumption. I don't hear anything about the Steam Deck being forbidden for sale and that's because Valve can actually engineer.

If "regular" users turned off their computers when they weren't using them instead of leaving them on day and night for weeks then there'd be a lot less of a problem.

"But it wears out the computer faster if I turn it off and on." Sure, if you sit there and flip the switch 30 times in ten seconds.

Most computers will have an auto-sleep or hibernate after 30 minutes... so i don't know if that's a good enough excuse..

Besides, if i can't get 1 machine to do the job, guess i'll get 2-3 instead.... becaues that will be more energy efficient... j/k


Though more seriously, i'd love to get a number of pi's and make a small super computer with them; the problem being i don't actually have any large tasks nor not sure the setup to make such a system...

I do , they like donkeys more than elephants.
and all this banning is based on some lame component sheet making it a very bad exploitable system
just by adding a few extra outputs they can make them sellable, anybody is supporting this cant be sane i support removing forum games completely , they are clearly a menace if they would fire those who make these regulations, then they would have even less of a problem
anybody with a working brain knows this is not how to regulate things to be more eco friendly

Well if one has a laptop then that would put more wear and tear on the power button, and if that breaks then good luck turning your PC on.

That aside, as rtcvb32 said: PCs have sleep/hibernate modes which use very little power

You know what could really help save power? If businesses stopped wasting so much of it doing things like(but not limited to) leaving a ton of lights on (like on big flashing signs) overnight while they're closed.

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Phantom or regular? Do they have little light sabers, then? o.0 ;)

Or better yet, don't fire them but just don't listen to them.....then watch as they probably start to quit due to being ignored.

As for regulations: this reminds me of the plastic bag debacle. They banned em in several states, only to bring in bags that cost more to make & buy, and which cannot be recycled.

And guess what? People have been tossing them out(albeit less than with plastic) into the landfill too, when they rip or break(due to shoddy craftsmanship/materials).

why would they quit when they get money for doing nothing?
yep , many regulations just make it worse ,like germany with its nukepower switching to coalpower

So they force that to everyone, even those who have a legit reason to keep their system running?

If I e.g. have my home PC "idling", running AnyDesk so that I can connect to it from elsewhere when needed, how does the system decide whether it is ok to put the system to e.g. sleep or hibernate mode?

Or if I am downloading some super-rare file which is coming down at 5kB/s either from a web page or the ed2k network and it will take days or weeks to download it, will the system still cancel it by forcing the system into sleep or hibernate mode every 10 minutes?

At least in the operating systems you can switch off such power save features in case they cause problems to you, but I am now unsure if those states now want to make those features mandatory, not optional, and hardware-based (ie. it is not the OS that controls them anymore, but the hardware).

A much MUCH better, and also simpler, approach to make people conserve electricity is to e.g. tax it more. People will switch off their electric equipment and favor less energy-hungry systems, if it hurts their wallets. Or alternatively, they would buy e.g. solar panels to power them themselves in order to save money.

thats how big government works , they decide what is good for you

yep, a simple tax or efficiency minimum should have been enough, let people decide if they want to save money with these features or not