Posted January 05, 2021
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Posted January 05, 2021
Looking more into this it looks like they want to provide methods to bring console games to the PC using wrappers for Emulators and such to make installation convenient without needing to look for the emulation program, console core, and such.
my name is catte
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Posted January 06, 2021
Stop the ridiculous jumping to conclusions. What on earth brings you to believe Bleem is DRM? It's the name of a PSX emulator, there's no reason to assume they've just decided to use the name of a PSX emulator for a new DRM-scheme.
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Posted January 06, 2021
So, they just made RetroArch and slapped the name of a failed emulator from the 90s on it to justify yet more market fragmentation. Cool.
kohlrak
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Posted January 06, 2021
I NEED all my games in one place on Steam or GOG or Epic or Ba'noodle, otherwise I poo and pee. (not really meant as a dig at gibbeynator, just being goofy as usual)
Post edited January 06, 2021 by tfishell
RawSteelUT
Happy the forum seems to be calming down.
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Posted June 02, 2021
As long as they're willing to support the platform for years to come (and of course are DRM-Free). After Desura, IndieGameStand and Playism, I'm a bit weary of spending money on a potentially fly-by-night marketplace.
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Posted June 02, 2021
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RawSteelUT: As long as they're willing to support the platform for years to come (and of course are DRM-Free). After Desura, IndieGameStand and Playism, I'm a bit weary of spending money on a potentially fly-by-night marketplace.
It's not even A marketplace atm....as OP's link shows an under construction page. (this means they likely either failed quickly or haven't gotten it running in nearly half a year...both don't seem too good)
kohlrak
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Posted June 02, 2021
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kohlrak: You say "justify" as if decentralization ("market fragmentation"/"competition") is a bad thing.
RawSteelUT: As long as they're willing to support the platform for years to come (and of course are DRM-Free). After Desura, IndieGameStand and Playism, I'm a bit weary of spending money on a potentially fly-by-night marketplace. timppu
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Posted June 02, 2021
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RawSteelUT: As long as they're willing to support the platform for years to come (and of course are DRM-Free). After Desura, IndieGameStand and Playism, I'm a bit weary of spending money on a potentially fly-by-night marketplace.
kohlrak: The whole point of DRM-free is that you don't have to worry about that, though. DRM-free is about returning us to the times back when we could install and run agame from a CD without internet, even if some of those games had some weak DRM on them. We (normally) have to rely on the digital store, from which we originally bought the game, for any updates and fixes for the game.
In the retail times, those updates could be obtained from anywhere, e.g. the publisher's homepage, from Patches Scrolls, other gaming-related sites... irrespective in which store you had originally bought your game. Well, at least usually, sometimes there were special versions of the game (normally from some digital store like Dirext2Drive or something) that had separate patches, but they were usually offered at those same places, along with the vanilla patches.
Nowadays we have to go to the original store to get those patches, for our store-specific version of the game. Updates to the Steam version do not work on the GOG version, and vice versa (at least not directly, sure it might be possible by manually copying changed files over the different versions, but still...).
Same of course goes to any additional content like DLCs and expansion packs, you have to get them through the store from which you bought the game.
But, after the game has received all relevant expansion packs and updates, then I guess it can be considered "store-free", ie. just download and keep the installer on your hard drive, and you don't have to care if the DRM-free store you bought it from perishes.
kohlrak
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Posted June 02, 2021
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kohlrak: The whole point of DRM-free is that you don't have to worry about that, though. DRM-free is about returning us to the times back when we could install and run agame from a CD without internet, even if some of those games had some weak DRM on them.
timppu: There is one major difference to the retail times though: We (normally) have to rely on the digital store, from which we originally bought the game, for any updates and fixes for the game.
In the retail times, those updates could be obtained from anywhere, e.g. the publisher's homepage, from Patches Scrolls, other gaming-related sites... irrespective in which store you had originally bought your game. Well, at least usually, sometimes there were special versions of the game (normally from some digital store like Dirext2Drive or something) that had separate patches, but they were usually offered at those same places, along with the vanilla patches.
Nowadays we have to go to the original store to get those patches, for our store-specific version of the game. Updates to the Steam version do not work on the GOG version, and vice versa (at least not directly, sure it might be possible by manually copying changed files over the different versions, but still...).
Same of course goes to any additional content like DLCs and expansion packs, you have to get them through the store from which you bought the game.
You can usually mix as long as the game itself is DRM-free. Mods, expansions, and DLC for The Quest, here on gog, will work with steam. I've also managed to get the android DLCs i bought to transfer to PC. But, after the game has received all relevant expansion packs and updates, then I guess it can be considered "store-free", ie. just download and keep the installer on your hard drive, and you don't have to care if the DRM-free store you bought it from perishes.
I think this is how the things, change, though. Many games now actually get updates whre they would not have before.I remember a couple games getting patches from their devs that caused trouble. (Ever heard of Halo Custom Edition?)Mplath1
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Posted June 05, 2021
Maxvorstadt: Hm, somehow that "bleem powered" thing sounds like some form of DRM for me, but I could be wrong.
PixelBoy: If they are true to the legacy of that name, it shouldn't be the case. Even though Bleem wasn't successful commercially, it was successful in fighting against the model where games were tied to some specific hardware. If they are using that name and bind games to a certain launcher... well, don't know what to say about that then.
LiquidOxygen80
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Posted June 05, 2021
I wouldn't call it ill-fated, unless being assimilated by Sony, who then used their code as the basis for the PS2's backward compatibility, is a fate worse than death. Actually, now that I think about it, yeah, maybe you're right.
RawSteelUT
Happy the forum seems to be calming down.
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Posted June 06, 2021
Gersen: Bleem, as in the ill fated commercial PSX emulator ?
Reading their announcement it seems a little fuzzy, what do they mean by "Bleem powered games" ? emulated games ? (In which case is it their emulator or are they just repacking existing open source one).
LiquidOxygen80: I wouldn't call it ill-fated, unless being assimilated by Sony, who then used their code as the basis for the PS2's backward compatibility, is a fate worse than death. Actually, now that I think about it, yeah, maybe you're right. Reading their announcement it seems a little fuzzy, what do they mean by "Bleem powered games" ? emulated games ? (In which case is it their emulator or are they just repacking existing open source one).
ShadowWulfe
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Posted June 07, 2021
Interesting.
If I find myself with more free time will definitely look into it.
If I find myself with more free time will definitely look into it.