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Do you trust Tencent is the big question (do you trust the CCP influence on tencent wont creep into way company operates )?. Reading through Wiki about Epic games, it certainly seems a. Epic lost a lot of important people b. definitely pushing the games as a service bullshit c. success all based on Fortnite. can it continue?. Nope. I dont trust them one bit.
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Niggles: Do you trust Tencent is the big question (do you trust the CCP influence on tencent wont creep into way company operates )?. Reading through Wiki about Epic games, it certainly seems a. Epic lost a lot of important people b. definitely pushing the games as a service bullshit c. success all based on Fortnite. can it continue?. Nope. I dont trust them one bit.
Epic has much more than just Forthnight. Heard about Unreal engine? Epic gets a share of most games sold using it.

edit - and speaking of which, developers who uses Unreal engine gets a better deal in the EGS
Post edited January 04, 2021 by amok
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Orkhepaj: what personal data?
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Abishia: personal data that they can directly link towards you

example

they know your name, address phone number and Email they tag it to a ID then they can analyses what kind of personal type you are by seeing your online gaming (if you are RPG fan you likely share more common ground then someone that play's shooters) this information is shared amounts 3e party's (sold data) which they can refine better understanding of your ID and have better commercial tags personalized.
So? I get more relevant ads.My gaming preference is more likely in their data, and hopefully it helps them to make games I like to buy. Where is the problem with that?
Post edited January 04, 2021 by Orkhepaj
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tfishell: Trust nobody, not even yourself.
Yep, your brain does all sorts of things without your permission or awareness.

Never fully trust anything ... be preventative and be cautious and keep an open mind.

And remember, that it is claimed there is no such thing as a Free Lunch or a Free Beer ... and they are probably right ... though it's hard to trust they are totally right.

Them's the breaks and that's life.

Trust enough to enjoy yourself, but don't get too carried away with the delusion, unless the illusion gets spoiled.
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Abishia: they know your name, address phone number and Email they tag it to a ID then they can analyses what kind of personal type you are by seeing your online gaming (if you are RPG fan you likely share more common ground then someone that play's shooters) this information is shared amounts 3e party's (sold data) which they can refine better understanding of your ID and have better commercial tags personalized.
But like... who cares? Why should I care that China knows which games I play and what my email address is? This is the thing "very concerned" people never really explain. Everyone knows Google takes your info and uses it for advertising, they just don't really care. You have to sell people on WHY they should care, but usually there's no real sales pitch for that. You just expect them to care on principle, and they don't.

Not really saying how right or wrong this is, but it's just a fact.
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Abishia: personal data that they can directly link towards you

example

they know your name, address phone number and Email they tag it to a ID then they can analyses what kind of personal type you are by seeing your online gaming (if you are RPG fan you likely share more common ground then someone that play's shooters) this information is shared amounts 3e party's (sold data) which they can refine better understanding of your ID and have better commercial tags personalized.
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Orkhepaj: So? I get more relevant ads.My gaming preference is more likely in their data, and hopefully it helps them to make games I like to buy. Where is the problem with that?
their is a problem that's not yet getting a better product but they sell you a less good product instant.
with sale fixes to fix a none existing problem in the first place.

see what they did their?.
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Orkhepaj: So? I get more relevant ads.My gaming preference is more likely in their data, and hopefully it helps them to make games I like to buy. Where is the problem with that?
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Abishia: their is a problem that's not yet getting a better product but they sell you a less good product instant.
with sale fixes to fix a none existing problem in the first place.

see what they did their?.
hmm what do you mean? could you write some examples?
they make bare bone games and sell dlc-s to make them worthy? I think that would happen even without the info
and what they would get from my info is I dont buy those dlc-s
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Abishia: their is a problem that's not yet getting a better product but they sell you a less good product instant.
with sale fixes to fix a none existing problem in the first place.

see what they did their?.
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Orkhepaj: hmm what do you mean? could you write some examples?
they make bare bone games and sell dlc-s to make them worthy? I think that would happen even without the info
and what they would get from my info is I dont buy those dlc-s
Ubisoft they create a problem (XP) so they sell a solution.
they use bought data or telemetry to see what demographics their player base exist out

for example if the game have a lot of females or males (they need different chattering)
say you have a game released but for some reason lot of German females playing that specific game like 10% more then average it's a gold strike for the devs to resale that data they found why that is. etc.
if their are a lot of teens in the game graphics they can add flashy screens shots to praise a DLC or product etc.

and no DLC's are not made out of thin air lot of research behind it same go's with making a videogame in general lot of research behind it (what demographics are they targeting gender, age, even average education play's a role)

they sure as hell not wanna make a videogame that stupid people can't play now don't they?. and no don't go beyond 8 buttons.....
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Abishia: Ubisoft they create a problem (XP) so they sell a solution.
they use bought data or telemetry to see what demographics their player base exist out

for example if the game have a lot of females or males (they need different chattering)
say you have a game released but for some reason lot of German females playing that specific game like 10% more then average it's a gold strike for the devs to resale that data they found why that is. etc.
if their are a lot of teens in the game graphics they can add flashy screens shots to praise a DLC or product etc.

and no DLC's are not made out of thin air lot of research behind it same go's with making a videogame in general lot of research behind it (what demographics are they targeting gender, age, even average education play's a role)
Do you mean it is a bad idea to make a product people would like to buy?

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Abishia: they sure as hell not wanna make a videogame that stupid people can't play now don't they?. and no don't go beyond 8 buttons.....
only a selcted elite should play games, and they should only play the games I say they should be playing
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Abishia: Ubisoft they create a problem (XP) so they sell a solution.
they use bought data or telemetry to see what demographics their player base exist out

for example if the game have a lot of females or males (they need different chattering)
say you have a game released but for some reason lot of German females playing that specific game like 10% more then average it's a gold strike for the devs to resale that data they found why that is. etc.
if their are a lot of teens in the game graphics they can add flashy screens shots to praise a DLC or product etc.

and no DLC's are not made out of thin air lot of research behind it same go's with making a videogame in general lot of research behind it (what demographics are they targeting gender, age, even average education play's a role)
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amok: Do you mean it is a bad idea to make a product people would like to buy?

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Abishia: they sure as hell not wanna make a videogame that stupid people can't play now don't they?. and no don't go beyond 8 buttons.....
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amok: only a selcted elite should play games, and they should only play the games I say they should be playing
or you dump on the game mechanics so they can also play... happens a lot this last few years would you not say?.
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amok: Do you mean it is a bad idea to make a product people would like to buy?

only a selcted elite should play games, and they should only play the games I say they should be playing
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Abishia: or you dump on the game mechanics so they can also play... happens a lot this last few years would you not say?.
no, I would not say
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Orkhepaj: hmm what do you mean? could you write some examples?
they make bare bone games and sell dlc-s to make them worthy? I think that would happen even without the info
and what they would get from my info is I dont buy those dlc-s
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Abishia: Ubisoft they create a problem (XP) so they sell a solution.
they use bought data or telemetry to see what demographics their player base exist out

for example if the game have a lot of females or males (they need different chattering)
say you have a game released but for some reason lot of German females playing that specific game like 10% more then average it's a gold strike for the devs to resale that data they found why that is. etc.
if their are a lot of teens in the game graphics they can add flashy screens shots to praise a DLC or product etc.

and no DLC's are not made out of thin air lot of research behind it same go's with making a videogame in general lot of research behind it (what demographics are they targeting gender, age, even average education play's a role)

they sure as hell not wanna make a videogame that stupid people can't play now don't they?. and no don't go beyond 8 buttons.....
those would happen without any data from me
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Orkhepaj: So? I get more relevant ads.My gaming preference is more likely in their data, and hopefully it helps them to make games I like to buy. Where is the problem with that?
On facebook from posting and information, they could identify if someone got pregnant, long before they themselves realize or even were showing symptoms.

What could possibly go wrong?

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Niggles: Do you trust Tencent is the big question
As every company in china has to join hands with the CCP to do buisness there, i'd automatically assume no. Not only because they probably put spywhere in everything they create, but stealing of intellectual property and selling their copies/versions of them without the overhead of actually designing it.

Although there was that law/executive order which had a huge stopgap where ownership from the chineese could be dropped and no compensation potentially. While that was to likely stop buying up of our land and country, i think it also goes with companies. Though if they move to china, well you belong to china... (Like apple)
Post edited January 04, 2021 by rtcvb32
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Orkhepaj: So? I get more relevant ads.My gaming preference is more likely in their data, and hopefully it helps them to make games I like to buy. Where is the problem with that?
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rtcvb32: On facebook from posting and information, they could identify if someone got pregnant, long before they themselves realize or even were showing symptoms.

What could possibly go wrong?
what could go wrong? from what can fb know she is pregnant? did she search for abortion rules and clinics?
Post edited January 04, 2021 by Orkhepaj
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rtcvb32: On facebook from posting and information, they could identify if someone got pregnant, long before they themselves realize or even were showing symptoms.

What could possibly go wrong?
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Orkhepaj: what could go wrong? from what can fb know she is pregnant? did she search for abortion rules and clinics?
analyze from food way of knowing if someone is pregnant.