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This is unreal:

"...for a company whose slogan, plastered on posters all around its Warsaw office, is “We are rebels.” "

HAHAHAHAHAHA.

Such rebels they are. Bending the knee to China over Devotion and SJWs over Hatred, Linko and twitter posts.

CDP, CDPR and GOG are the most "Stunning and Brave Rebels" - Ever.

What a joke.
Post edited December 18, 2020 by MajicMan
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Carradice: Just read in a British newspaper that Cyberpunk took ten (10) years to develop. Ouch.
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GamezRanker: 10 years? So CyberPunkForever, basically? ;)

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Carradice: With a cost of literally millions, plus the investment in publicity... Tough decisions for management in any case: hoping for small flaws that can be quickly patched or going safe yet losing the holidays season. Decisions, decisions...
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GamezRanker: If it were me in charge of such decisions i'd have held off to avoid the bad PR from all the bugs. I mean CDPR makes some good games sometimes, but it's fanbase isn't as loyal as say Bethesda's(with all the fans despite their bug loaded games).
I would have just labeled it as early access as every other shitty release do
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I had a curiosity about the REDEngine and came across this quote in part:

"...Our values and our care for what we are doing and – hopefully what gamers would agree with – care for gamers is what drives this company forward. It's my personal horror to become a faceless behemoth of game development or publishing or whatnot."
-CD Projekt Red founder Marcin Iwiński

(Source: http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2015-09-15-we-are-not-talking-with-anyone-regarding-selling-cd-projekt-red-or-gog-period )

This aged well.
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vsr: Publishers will never learn the lesson of Gothic 3.
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GamezRanker: What happened then, if I may ask?
Publisher's bankruptcy happened. Gothic 3 Community Patch happened. :/
https://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2011-05-05-why-gothic-dev-piranha-dumped-jowood
Disgruntled employees. They might not recover if the vultures jump in to poach some of the prime talent. Of course this treatment of staff is common in the industry but the grass always looks greener on the other side.
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AnimalMother117: "It's my personal horror to become a faceless behemoth of game development or publishing or whatnot."
-CD Projekt Red founder Marcin Iwiński
Meme gold.
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Orkhepaj: I would have just labeled it as early access as every other shitty release do
Tbh and fwiw I LIKE *some* "early access" games, as I like seeing what beta content and silly bugs I can find in early versions. :)

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vsr: Publisher's bankruptcy happened. Gothic 3 Community Patch happened. :/
https://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2011-05-05-why-gothic-dev-piranha-dumped-jowood
Thanks for the info(had forgotten about that bankruptcy).
Post edited December 18, 2020 by GamezRanker
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Carradice: Just read in a British newspaper that Cyberpunk took ten (10) years to develop. Ouch.
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GamezRanker: 10 years? So CyberPunkForever, basically? ;)
Mmm, that sounds like a great title for a sequel! :D

Here, the article
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Carradice: Mmm, that sounds like a great title for a sequel! :D
*Several engines and dev teams later*

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chevkoch: Meme gold.
We can put Marcin's face on Zucker-borg and put the quote beneath it....perfect. :)
Post edited December 18, 2020 by GamezRanker
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FallenHeroX1: Makes me wonder if the entire Devotion scandal was an effort by staff to expose CD projekt for spineless corporate pricks that they are.
Well, if you want to go down the conspiracy route here, how about that Devotion thing being deliberately created to divert the discussion away from Cyberpunk 2077 on GOG forums and elsewhere?

Most likely though the entire organisation seems to be lacking some PR knowledge. If there are two companies under one parent company, and two game releases cause two different scandals within one week, there is a bigger problem somewhere most likely.
Post edited December 18, 2020 by PixelBoy
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serpantino: Disgruntled employees. They might not recover if the vultures jump in to poach some of the prime talent. Of course this treatment of staff is common in the industry but the grass always looks greener on the other side.
Indeed the treatment of workers in the videogame industry is only becoming worse (in general) as the industry is becoming bigger and bigger... You know, it surpassed movies long ago.

Remember this documentary series in Netflix about videogames? High Score. Worth watching. Centered on the evolution of the games themselves. Well, I would love another one that is made on the evolution of the industry behind the games. From adaptation to small budget productions to modern large budget ones with large teams, to the type and quality of jobs offered, to the changes int the market, to differences in the culture of companies in the main development areas in the world, between them and over time.
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serpantino: Disgruntled employees. They might not recover if the vultures jump in to poach some of the prime talent. Of course this treatment of staff is common in the industry but the grass always looks greener on the other side.
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Carradice: Indeed the treatment of workers in the videogame industry is only becoming worse (in general) as the industry is becoming bigger and bigger... You know, it surpassed movies long ago.
Interesting...I was under the impression that most of the industry had cleaned up its act after said talent got poached by other parts of the tech sector in the late 2000s. But then I haven't really followed the internal workings very closely because of that bad reputation leading me toward other areas of software dev.
All this drama at once.
This is the first time i’ve seriously considered downloading a ton of offline installers.
Anyone have a recommended sd or usb?
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pkk234: All this drama at once.
This is the first time i’ve seriously considered downloading a ton of offline installers.
Anyone have a recommended sd or usb?
I used a WD Elements 2TB external for years, never had a problem with it. Just got a 4TB WD Black but haven't broken it in yet to say whether it's going to be reliable. Nothing wrong with the old one, it's just that 2TB isn't big enough now that AAA games are occasionally going no-DRM.

edit: Bad press is bad, but CDP probably won't fold like a cheap suit over this. However, offline backups are always a good idea.
Post edited December 19, 2020 by NovusBogus
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Enebias: It's capitalism. Regardless of the results, the boards always win, and screw the people who do the *real* work.
Friendly reminder that limited liability shareholder companies ("corporations" as we know them) are incompatible with free market capitalism. Such monstrous entities are created by government intervention in markets and perverse incentives created by governments.
Post edited December 19, 2020 by mqstout