Erm, why not just DL via browser or GOGDownloader, rather than the beta galaxy?

Disc version. If memory serves, that version required what darth outlined and there was no provision to add it to your GOG library so you could DL the game from here. I could be misremembering though.

I'm pretty sure the CD version included a redeemable GoG code (or else how would it work in Galaxy?) This code should work here just like any other game.

Okay, so that means buying games like Limbo or Inside on Steam could possibly cause laptops to over-heat because of all the Denuvo checks during play? My laptop seems very hot on these games. Just sayin...

It required a file that wasn't available before release. They basically gutted the disc version so it was useless till they allowed you to download the file.

The reason some people think Galaxy was required was because the instructions in the box only explained how to play the game through Galaxy.

No, this is not a level of strain you would pretty much ever even notice. The game's own performance is far more important. For instance, games like MGSV and Mad Max pretty much ran like a dream even on low end systems and both have Denuvo.

EDIT: I thought my original post was swallowed up, but now both of them are on this one. Whoops.

I thought it was already known that Mad Max used Denuvo. No real reason to have a DRM FAQ for the game at this point.

As far as the "Not DRM" part of the FAQ (and what people say online) when just calling it an "Anti-Tamper" solution (which honestly annoys me greatly), sorry...but it's still DRM.

When you launch a game using it for the first time it needs to authenticate itself with the Denuvo servers online before playing, which in itself IS DRM. Not to mention that some Denuvo games limit the amount of times you can authenticate a new install within a 24-hour period (Total War: WARHAMMER and a few other games do this, 5 machines a day).

The only experience I have with this DRM is DOOM (but it got removed in a recent patch), and for the most part I didn't really run into any issues. Also really liked the game too, so there's that.

Thank for your info! Appreciated it.

It's known, but only if you check sites that list what games have Denuvo crap in them or someone tells you, but the steam page itself doesn't list it, so anyone buying may not know until it's too late to get a refund.

I heard Mad Max has Denuvo, but other ppl said they removed it. So which is it?

As far as I know these are the only games that had Denuvo removed:

-DOOM
-Inside
-The Climb

When looking around I'm not seeing anything about Denuvo being officially removed from the game, and the FAQ the OP linked was recently added to that Steam Mad Max forum. It's cracked from what I found, but that's it.

Looking at that steam page I wonder if Laptop65 just copied and pasted an official Q & A statement from denuvo since those questions and answers look like the same ones the last couple of times folks have raised queries regarding denuvo.

If TW3 would've had Denuvo, I wouldn't have bought it at full price. I would've probably waited for a 75-80% off. So GG CDPR.

It got removed from the linux version only.

Who is this Laptop65 user? This is not an official stance. because he does not know details and is too general on his answers.
I think this is quite a poor FAQ. Here are some examples:

A: As far as spying goes – someone would have noticed by now if Denuvo was poking around with files on your PC or uploading odd amounts of information up the Internet

Q: I have heard rumours about Denuvo spying on your PC files (...)

I'm not saying the spying is true, I'm saying his negation of it is not valid.


"DRM (Digital Rights Management) is software that is meant to manage your online content and allow you to access and manage your games and make sure you are given access to a new game when you purchase it and so on."

So is Galaxy. Is Galaxy DRM, or a store front-end?
He then adds:

"It should be noted that there is a limit of being able to install the game more than 5 times in a 24 hour period."

So, Denuvo is not DRM, just an anti-tampering system. Right.


As for The Witcher 3, the author says twice that it "has still been pirated into oblivion". What does he mean with it?

Has it failed to be a commercial success? No. "Indeed it has sold well"
Was it a bad game? No. "great game"
Was it ignored, unrecognised or failed to leave its mark? No. "has won many awards", "won a few hundred awards"
Maybe it failed with the public? No. "the developer / publisher has captured the hearts of millions of gamers with respect,"

What else could you ask of a game? How could Denuvo make The Witcher 3 better? How was it "pirated into oblivion"?


DRM seems to be here to stay, I get that. But let us speak honestly and candidly about it. Don't blow smoke to our faces.

Interesting information. Here was some information, which i didn´t know about Denuvo.

When i first time heard about Denuvo, I guessed, it was another DRM garbage to bully paying customers. Creators of Denuvo might call it anti-tamper system but it still behaves like DRM. I really don`t like DRM, which has online activation system. If some game is good and praised game, I skip the game if it has Denuvo kind shit inside.