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Who wrote that "bill of human rights"? Chairman Mao?


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tinyE: TARFU, we dropped two atomic bombs one one country and gave the world The Eagles. As an American I appreciate your posts, but let's face it, we're pretty fucking evil. :P
Can't argue about the fucking Eagles, though.
Post edited July 01, 2016 by yogsloth
Hating on the US is very PC. Hating on most other countries is waysist, so people hate exclusively on the US. Or Russia.
According to that highly flawed list, we still apparently have 21 human rights. That's better than 2 out of 3!

Of course, if you go by The Clash, the record is worse.
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HereForTheBeer: According to that highly flawed list, we still apparently have 21 human rights. That's better than 2 out of 3!

Of course, if you go by The Clash, the record is worse.
Rock the Casbah?
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HereForTheBeer: According to that highly flawed list, we still apparently have 21 human rights. That's better than 2 out of 3!

Of course, if you go by The Clash, the record is worse.
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TARFU: Rock the Casbah?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5lfInFVPkQs
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TARFU: Rock the Casbah?
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HereForTheBeer: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5lfInFVPkQs
Ok, gotcha.
Why is it always about human rights, when this thread could be about...........HUMAN LEFTS FTW. :D
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infinite9: The United States has [...] arguably more than other countries ...
And also (much) less than other countries. I mean that it may not be a good figure of distinction to compare with the worst of the worst and find you are still above them. Especially for those who suffer from disregard of human rights it probably doesn't matter much what else is good or bad.

If we argue that way we could even praise China because living there is definitely better than in North Korea.
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Ariod: ...Yeah we got plenty of problems, and human rights are debatable, and unfortunately more debatable than when I was growing up. But everybody's got problems right, I've only lived here so far in my life so I can't make direct comparisons if our problems or human rights are necessarily better/worse than anybody else's. And without direct experience, just depends who's opinion you choose to believe.
Why only relying on opinions and believe, what about trying to gather facts? They are difficult to separate from the lies and opinions but they are there somewhere and in many cases evidence can be gathered.

For example: GITMO really exists - it's not just an opinion. Abu Ghreib really existed - it's not just an opinion. Toture really was practized during the era of GW Bush, it's not just an opinion.

While you can never be absolutely, totally sure, I would deem it very likely the US has many bad habits in this regard, more than for example Norway. While everyone has problems, it doesn't mean everyone has the same amount of problems. It could be that some have many more problems, especially if they do not start solving them. They probably pile up at some point. It's just a possibility though, everyone has to judge the facts by himself.

One organization that tries to gather facts in this regard is Amnesty International. If you are interested in evidences about human rights you could consider supporting them financially or otherwise. The other thing that can be done is voting for parties that are strongly for human rights and transparency. That way you can do something to improve your country.
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timppu: Overall, I have a bit of an issue with these comparisons where e.g. small single countries (like Belgium or Finland) are compared to a gigantic federal state like USA. The scope is so different, providing social security to 5-6 million people in Finland, or 320 million in the USA.
!!! Thank you thank you thank you!

Every so often, I see posts on FB like "X country has y social benefit, and it works there, so why don't we adopt that system here?"

The difference in scope almost always bothered me, and now I have a better comparison to use if I try to reply.

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Maighstir: Judging by the internet certainly seems that some ex-men feel oppressed.
This should not have made me laugh as hard as it did.

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HereForTheBeer: According to that highly flawed list, we still apparently have 21 human rights. That's better than 2 out of 3!
And you've said what I was planning to say.