Active player? We're still talking about flubbucket, right?

Are you greeting your buddies with this, for some reason?

@flubb and Poppy: a 100% confirmed towny is always dangerous to scum because there is no way to throw dirt at him that will stick. But on the other hand you're right. An innocent child is also a confirmed 'no other PR'. So scum might decide to rather hunt PRs. ... But why is this important? Why speculate what scum might do with a confirmed towny? Why not rather discuss what town might do with a confirmed towny? How can we utilize the fact that we do have a confirmation? I've never played a game with an innocent child yet. Can we get some advantage beyond 'OK, let's not lynch flubb'?

Hey, even if his play is terrible, him living is helpful purely from a numbers point of view. :P

Sadly, no.

Nonsense. He's perfectly lynchable. He just needs 7 more votes on him.

Wuss. ;)

So you're claiming to be town who has no chance of being lynched or night killed......

I think flub has taken his "confirmed town" status as a challenge.

Cor, man, you could at least put some effort into your accusations.

Flub's play is never terrible, just often misunderstood. Either that or he's not drunk yet



You are discounting to easily the power of a confirmed town player. Last game with me having a strong lean that Hunter and Vitek were town and Vitek having a strong lean that Hunter was town we almost won the game, just imagine if I had been able to cop one of them and confirm them as town (mainly Vitek) we probably would have won.

I can think of several other things that can be done as well, but that is opening a discussion that we don't want opened so let's leave it closed.

Wow! Things have changed since the last time I played...

Yep, there's nothing better than almost winning! Oh wait...

Glad I'm not the only one who noticed that. I'm wondering what that tells us. Mind, we might see an unvote fairly soon, or HSL might just leave that vote there whilst others move onto more serious votes.

I think the only setup detail I'd like to analyse at this point in time is how many scum we might have so as to aid in shortlisting. The lowest possible amount in C9++ is two, which is substantially unlikely; the highest it can go would be four, with the most likely being three. Given that four is possible, I don't think anyone should discount a read outright early on just because they can't fit it into a list of three suspects. Since flub is an Innocent Child, we're either MXXXXXX or MMMXXXX, with the former being the most likely. The median values for Townie are TTT, TTTT, and TTTTT, making three scum most likely with a possibility of four.

So, our most likely scenarios are:

MTTTXXX: 2 Goons + Roleblocker, Serial Killer
MTTTTXX: 2 Goons + Roleblocker
MTTTTTX: Goon + Godfather, Serial Killer

My money is on MTTTXXX, but that's pure speculation. Functionally, I think we should assume a serial killer, and we'll see how that goes tonight. For now, that's all I really want to say about this.

Also, add me to the list of hoping we don't have a slow weekend.

What's the point behind all this exactly?

To look busy.

Hi,
Since a few people yesterday asked me a questions about the setup, in the interest of fairness I'm posting here the answer they all received: It's a C9++ with a twist. Whether this techinically makes it semi-open or not is completely up to you.

(this is not saying you shouldn't ask me questions via PM, but sometimes the answer you receive is the answer you receive).

I think I remember trentonlf once saying that it is unwise to try and figure out the game's core dynamics and the build of a setup in purpose of gaining advantage. It just screws up the game experience.

Vote: PoppyAppletree

My experience: things hardly ever are the way you assume them to be. Assumptions are misleading.

On a side note: does anyone else it funny how an innocent flubbucket child made it into elite special forces commandos?

In jest or a double bluff perhaps? IE a townee would never dare say this so I'll say it.

Not too much to go on. Dessimu was probably joking. He's used humour in his last 2 posts but in real life humour is often used to hide the truth. Joe voted for me and I tend to find people who attack me slightly suspicious but then town are meant to thoroughly investigate everyone and make sure they get a lynch.

To muddy the water perhaps.

As @Lift & @Sirprimalform pointed out it is good analysis. I agree the wording sounds slightly scummy but perhaps your seeing something that isn't there. My initial blind vote is looking like it's between Joe, Poppy and Dessimu. Poppy seems very helpful and friendly so lynching her would be a little mean anyway. So now I'm torn between Joe and Dessimu unless I see further developments. The early rounds in Mafia are really completely luck based though and I'm not sure the whole game isn't to a degree.

Vote Desimu now in case I lose internet this weekend but remain open to a change of vote down the line.