Sid Alpha covers this whole hubbub

I highly recommend a watch, I like Sid Alpha alot.

Every thread involving RWS ends this way.
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Where's the "far right" in this topic? Not being an outright kommunist does not make one far right, contrary to the claims of the regressive left.

It's funny how mad ya'll got over this.

Good stuff. And since I never really bothered with GG to begin with a bit educational as well. Did not even though it was an actual group but rather a thing like Watergate... but juvenile.

But I still fail to see what forcing narratives and supporting bullies like Sarkesian or that recent Price case has to do with social justice or liberal mindsets since these people are everything but that. As a big fan of these values (social justice, liberalism and yes, even feminism) in their actual interpretation I'm to offended by both bandwagons; the ones that devalue them by acting like they have them and the ones that believe (or act like they believe) the others actually have them; to join any of them.

I don't think gog should have taken it down and apologize for it. They should have respectfully explain it if they wanted to do the right thing. But I don't know how many gamers are still following such sites so there might still some money into pleasing them.

*sigh*

Welcome to 2018. Sigh.

What I see in this is basically nothing wrong on gog.com's part. They posted a joke. That is their right. Someone didn't like it (which by the way is also their right). And gog.com removed the joke which again is also their right. However I do think we did get to see some quite illuminating stuff through this... VG24/7 said they'd pull support for gog.com which does beg the question: A "journalistic" website actually supports a retailer? Doesn't that completely undermine your integrity as journalists?

Another quite illuminating thing: We again got to see that games journalists systematically vilify anyone who don't like what they do as mysogynistic and racist. It's so disingenious that it reeks. I gotta admit that prior to this I had never heard of VG24/7 so in that way they actually did get their name seen by someone through this... That they also completely compromised their integrity is another thing.

Most gaming sites link to stores and make money that way. Ad revenue is shrinking all the time for such sites, so affiliate links is actually one of the best ways to make money. The ethics of that can be debated of course, but I think the core reason not many care is that gaming "journalism" is an oxymoron, since all they do is regurgitate press releases and write opinion blogs. There is no New York Times of games, nor can there be really. All they care about is bringing in the clicks, which is why we have so many B.S. articles with attention-grabbing headlines (on both sides).

Also, to clarify: the Postal 2 imagine had very clear and direct references to GamerGate which GOG did not understand when they posted it. That is why they apologized and removed it, to not be associated with that group (which has been tainted, right or wrong, by the actions of many of its members). They did not just apologize and remove it due to it being "offensive," it's the ties with what most in the industry accept as a "hate group" that made them do so. Any business would have done the same.

And it is that defining of the entire group as a hate group that I say is false. Basically the way they call anyone associated with the group mysogynistic is like saying that the nazis made trains run on time. Anyone complaining their train is late basically want to wipe out the jews and create a third reich to last a thousand years.

Not sure that analogy works so can't respond to it, but I think the "is GamerGate rightly called a hate group" thing is a debate to be hashed out in more detail. Honestly I was gone from gaming for much of that raging debate and didn't involve myself much. I see it as two extremist sides angry at each other while I'm just in the middle trying to come back and play some games, ya know? So I can't really speak to that.

All I am saying is, from a business perspective, you do not directly associate yourself with a group the entire press has labeled a hate group. It would be insane to do so. Any business, upon realizing that connection in the image, would have done exactly what GOG did and remove the connection. I don't think anyone should judge GOG for doing so, because no business in its right mind would do otherwise.

That is exactly the thing: The entire press labels them a hate group to delegitimize them. Because a few elements of the group spewed hate, harassment and in some cases violence they use that to slander the rest who have a very legitimate point about lack of ethics in the media. They label the group a hate group against women and minorities basically because it gives them a way to delegitimize any accusation of unethical behaviour as based it the alt-right, racism and mysogyny. BTW from a business stand point I actually don't get why gog.com should care. It's the gamers, not the journalists, that pay their salaries. But that said I don't think it's wrong to delete the tweet but I can just say that had I been in charge I wouldn't have...

I mean, you can debate it more if you want, but my mind was made up the moment they harassed a trans woman to the point she attempted suicide live on Twitch. If there was any remorse, acceptance of responsibility, or any attempt from them to discourage the negative behavior of some in the group, then I didn't see it. I was largely neutral on GG before that thinking they weren't that bad. I mean, just look at some of the responses in these threads and the GOG Twitter posts.

I hope I won't get bored halfway through my contribution to this debate because I really want to point out that when the

Well, kudos for keeping at it for that long :-D

That's the thing, even something that starts out with good intentions can get out of control. The movement didn't take this into consideration, and then horrible stuff like that started happening. At some point, they need to ask themselves if the whole "ethics" part of the movement is worth people being harassed and dying. It's just video games for christ sakes.