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Stay on topic, this isn't a thread on the leanings of a president that you may or may not agree with/like.
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Linko90: Stay on topic, this isn't a thread on the leanings of a president that you may or may not agree with/like.
Finally a mod warning I can agree on.
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tremere110: No, you stay neutral for business reasons. Unless your business is politics - stay the hell away from it. There are plenty of ways to extricate yourself from that situation without going in the exact opposite direction.
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StingingVelvet: I agree you should stay neutral, but in the case of a situation where a group has attained the reputation of a hate mob you have to denounce any connection. Again, whether you think GG has justifiably earned that reputation is beside the point. It has that reputation now, firmly entrenched, even on mainstream non-gaming news sites and channels like the BBC, so GOG had to remove any possible link. It is 100% common sense and understandable.

And with that I'm going to go play some Witcher 3. It's obvious no one's mind is changing in this thread.
The problem is that the sword cuts both ways. The problem with taking a side is that it alienates the other side (of which quite a few are your customers). I understand that denouncing Gamergate is a business strategy. Hypothetically, if GoG were to go out of business in a few years because of it - would you still say it was still the correct one?
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Linko90: Stay on topic, this isn't a thread on the leanings of a president that you may or may not agree with/like.
sorry :D

I'll stop, I promise.
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Linko90: Stay on topic, this isn't a thread on the leanings of a president that you may or may not agree with/like.
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tinyE: sorry :D

I'll stop, I promise.
Even when staying on topic you somehow find a way to derail a thread, a unique gift of yours :p
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tinyE: sorry :D

I'll stop, I promise.
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tremere110: Even when staying on topic you somehow find a way to derail a thread, a unique gift of yours :p
How was that a derail on my part?

I'll admit, my post had nothing to do with the thread topic, but I was answering a post that didn't either. I didn't derail anything, I replied to a derail.

And yes, I should have kept my mouth shut, but don't pin something on me I didn't do. God knows there are enough horrible things I ACTUALLY DO to nail me for. :P
Post edited July 22, 2018 by tinyE
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tinyE: sorry :D

I'll stop, I promise.
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tremere110: Even when staying on topic you somehow find a way to derail a thread, a unique gift of yours :p
don't enable him ;)
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Asefo: The drm free card is why a lots of us are here, but it is not enough to convince friends to come.
When i tried to talk them into embracing gog over the years, I always tried to take a global approach and talking about gog being a parent company with cd project, loving video games themselves and not wanting to screw their customers, a company with a certain philosophy.

Now the first online search they make is how steam said no to censorship and how gog decided to kneel in front of some fake news marketing companies that almost everybody came to despise over the years.

I know you probably just wanted to appease things, and I have no intention to stop buying things here, but you certainly did not made things easy to encourage people coming here instead of steam.
If that's how you view Valve's decision to not clear out the garbage from their store, that they're saying no to censorship, then I think you're eating their spin raw.

Valve made the decision to do sod all beacuse it was the easiest thing for them to do that would cost them the least money. Then they wrapped inaction up in nice language and a lot of people thought Valve had just done something for them, when in reality Valve did nothing.

There currently is an issue with everybody and their braindamaged cat putting whatever garbage they want onto Steam, where it ends up cluttering the heck out of the store. There's all kinds of junk, from games that are just shoddy craftmanship to games that are borderline scams to bot farmer food. There's so much junk released onto steam that if you just look at the new release list then you're not going to find anything worthwhile in the flood of sewage.

My two most played sci-fi 4x games over the last 3-4 years? Distant Worlds and Stars in Shadow. Two indie games with a combined developer count of 3. There was just one guy working on DW, two on SiS. Both are great games, though DW really, really suffered from a clunky as heck UI. Anyway, how did I find those games? Through the media. I would never have found out about them by just browsing on Steam, because there they just don't stand out in any imaginable way.

It would be fantastic, in my view, if Steam would kick out all the useless garbage devs and all their useless garbage products. That's not censorship, it's quality control. Just like it isn't censorship when a store declines to sell rotten produce. But under the guise of not caving to censorship, Valve promised to have zero quality control. Nothing is too bad. No slice of meat is too rotten, even if it has maggots crawling all over it. And that's what you're praising them for, isn't it?

By the way, if you want to drag your friends to GOG, ask them the hypothetical question: What happens to your entire game library if Steam closes? Then your games are just gone. All of them. Because they all rely on Steam to run and no Steam means they're broken. Heck, we might realistically see a subscription service happen if Steam ever fades, because entirely too many people have entirely too much money irrevocably tied up in that service. Pay two bucks a month or lose access to several thousand bucks. It's an excellent racket, isn't it?

That can't really happen on GOG, though. Because every single last GOG game works just fine without GOG. Every. Single. One. It's not simply about "DRM-free" as a principle, it's about owning versus leasing and about being sure that your purchases stay bought.

That aside, does it really matter, in the grand scheme of things, that GOG is trying rather hard to end up in the lesser shitstorm after missing an implicit GG troll from RWS? What else would anyone expect? Them seeking out a big shitstorm on principle, just to show who's boss, and business consequences be damned?
Post edited July 22, 2018 by Arachnarok_Rider
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Arachnarok_Rider: ... wall of text ...
it's about owning versus leasing and about being sure that your purchases stay bought.
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I guess you never read any eula in your life if you think you actually own anything.
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just another reason why you don't get any money from me gog!!!!!!!!!!!!

remember folks! don't buy on gog! its as bad as supporting isis with your money!
Post edited July 22, 2018 by apehater
They also start to remove comments on their Facebook posts, calling them out. Guess I will no longer buy any games here on GOG. You support SJWs, you lose legitimate customers.
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Drakhor: You support SJWs, you lose legitimate customers.
I'm an SJW and a legitimate customer.
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Drakhor: You support SJWs, you lose legitimate customers.
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tinyE: I'm an SJW and a legitimate customer.
And that's why everybody here hates you, as far as I can tell from a quick glance at the replies. Might want to rethink your life choices.
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Mavado: Hardly. He's a nationalist who happens to be white. There is a difference, and it's a big one.
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tinyE: XD He's a bigot Mavado. Stop fooling yourself.

KKK stages a protest, he refers to them as "fine Americans".
Black athletes stage a protest, he refers to them as "sons of bitches".

He calls BLM a terrorist group, the KKK, again, "Fina Americans".

Of actual terrorist groups/gangs, he only goes after the non white ones. Every day he condemns ISIS and M-13. When, if ever. have you ever seen him condemn, much less just criticize, either the Klan or the Aryan Front? If he has, point it out, I want to see it.

When a minority goes on a shooting spree, it's a gang, it's a terrorist act, and the solution is, "We need tougher laws!!!"
When a white person goes on a shooting spree it's a lone gunmen, it's mental illness, and the solution is "thoughts and prayers."

When he first became President this is the one problem I DIDN'T think he had. I thought as bad as he was/is, at least he isn't racist. Well I was wrong.

The guy is a bigot and there is no amount of rationalizing you can do to change that.
Please provide sources for your claims, because you are just seam to spew hate do to Trump Derangement Syndrome.

Trump is not perfect but he's far from the monster you make him out to be.