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Steam was its rightful place all along. Now I hope it is going to be dropped from GOG.
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Yeshu: Well look at that. A "Gwent has DRM!!" circle jerk thread! And I thought they went extinct.

Gwent is a F2P online multiplayer game. How is it suppose to work offline?
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Breja: That's like defending the idea of using a car as a boat by saying "of course it has wheels! It's a car! How would it drive around without them?". The argument isn't that a car shouldn't have wheels. It's that it doesn't belong in the sea.
You know, these kind of comparisons should make sense. If you have more insight into this, how would YOU make the game to make it good and profitable?
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vv221: Steam was its rightful place all along. Now I hope it is going to be dropped from GOG.
Elitist much?
Post edited May 20, 2020 by Yeshu
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vv221: Steam was its rightful place all along. Now I hope it is going to be dropped from GOG.
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Yeshu: Elitist much?
Not at all, I actually highly dislike any form of elitism in video games ;)
(I dislike elitism outside of video games too, but that is off topic)

The only reason I think that Gwent is a game that should be sold on Steam and not on GOG is because it is a DRM-gated game. Offering Gwent here is actually the single most shameful thing GOG did in its entire history: the only game distributed by GOG store that has 100% of its content locked behind a third-party client is developed and published by CD Projekt Red themselves…
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vv221: The only reason I think that Gwent is a game that should be sold on Steam and not on GOG is because it is a DRM-gated game.
Every multiplayer game needs some sort of network client to manage connections between players' accounts.
Gwent is the only game I use GOG Galaxy for and I think it's ok.
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tfishell: "Requires 3rd-Party Account: GOG Account (Supports Linking to Steam Account)" - LOL, maybe I'm sick in the head but I kinda like this :P
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fronzelneekburm: lololol, no, wait... hol' up!

I haven't played Gwent and I have no idea how microtransactions work in the Steam version (or the Galaxy version, for that matter). But if they're sold directly inside the game without the purchase actually going through Steam, wouldn't that mean that Valve won't see a nickel from this game?

If that's the case, it would be deviously clever on so many levels. They'd have put up a bogus store page for no other reason than getting Steam users to register on gog while 100% cutting Valve out of any profits made from microtransactions (which are sure to soar thanks to Steam's larger user base).

If the above is the case, I applaud them.
I highly doubt it. They nipped that back when "free" MMO's were trying to do the same thing. It was (supposedly) the reason EA pulled their games from Steam (though let's face it, that was because they were starting their own platform, they didn't just slap that together in a couple of weeks)
Post edited May 20, 2020 by Pheace
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fronzelneekburm: They'd have put up a bogus store page for no other reason than getting Steam users to register on gog while 100% cutting Valve out of any profits made from microtransactions (which are sure to soar thanks to Steam's larger user base).
I'm 99% sure that statement is total nonsense, and the truth is that GOG is giving Steam a 30% cut of all money that changes hands via GWENT copies that are launched via the Steam version.
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timppu: Steam users don't apparently mind creating lots of extra third-party accounts and installing lots of extra clients, so I guess it is fine.
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tfishell: Oh no, a portion do mind, but they'll put up with it ultimately (granted some of us on GOG get used to things too :P). I do like the idea of that potentially funneling more users to GOG.
Yeah, I was being partly sarcastic... and partly not, as apparently such "third-party client/account" games (like GTA IV and V) have a far higher acceptance rate on Steam, than they'd have on GOG.

I guess if you don't mind several layers or DRM and more and more installed clients on your PC, it doesn't matter much. A few days ago I installed both GTA IV (Steam) and GTA V (Epic) on my PC, one after another. With GTA IV, it automatically installed the Rockstar client in the back, and required me to create a RS account (going to my email to validate the creation and blaa blaa blaa, you know the drill).

Then after that when I installed GTA V from a different store (Epic), the whole RS client/account process was "invisible" to me. It did check if I have the RS client and account in place (auto-login in use for the RS account), and since it found the existing client/account which I had just installed with Steam GTA IV, it was satisfied and there were no extra steps for me involved.

So I guess most Steam users don't mind the extra accounts and clients, as long as they are not bugging them constantly. The only hurdle is the initial "please create and validate yet another gaming service account".

Of course if I much later go to re-install GTA IV or V on another PC, I may have already forgotten I have that RS account, and at that point I am like "Huh? I have an account there? I wonder which email and password I used there? The same as in Steam or Epic? I hope so.".
Post edited May 20, 2020 by timppu
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fronzelneekburm: They'd have put up a bogus store page for no other reason than getting Steam users to register on gog while 100% cutting Valve out of any profits made from microtransactions (which are sure to soar thanks to Steam's larger user base).
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Ancient-Red-Dragon: I'm 99% sure that statement is total nonsense, and the truth is that GOG is giving Steam a 30% cut of all money that changes hands via GWENT copies that are launched via the Steam version.
only if the transactions are done via Steam's channels. they do not need to be
Post edited May 20, 2020 by amok
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ChrisGamer300: That's the best news i have ever heard ! Gwent and Steam belong with each other. One step closer to get Gwent migrated from GOG to Steam exclusivity. Out with that horrible piece of DRM.

Truly horrifying it is.
Exactly. And besides, why not? Birds of a feather flock together! Plus, it isn't as if Gwent is a GoodOldGame, anyway. He he
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ChrisGamer300: That's the best news i have ever heard ! Gwent and Steam belong with each other. One step closer to get Gwent migrated from GOG to Steam exclusivity. Out with that horrible piece of DRM.

Truly horrifying it is.
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KiNgBrAdLeY7: Exactly. And besides, why not? Birds of a feather flock together! Plus, it isn't as if Gwent is a GoodOldGame, anyway. He he
Remember ! NEVER make exuses in favor of any DRM, treat it with utmost contempt whenever it shows itself even if it's on GOG.

You don't want it to spread out of control do you ?
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ChrisGamer300: Remember ! NEVER make exuses in favor of any DRM, treat it with utmost contempt whenever it shows itself even if it's on GOG.

You don't want it to spread out of control do you ?
Fully and wholeheartedly agrees.

But other than DRM, other malpractices found their way in GOG store, as well. One of those, also is about Gwent. Censorship. One of the many, a ready example, is the artwork of certain cards, such as Wh_reson Junior, i believe.

Of course i DON'T want things (like those or others) spread out of control. The users that cared about what made GOG great in the old days, most of them left the forums, as soon as moderation became a thing. There are few others who spend time or thought, concerning listing those things and nagging about their excessive presence, as of late especially.
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Breja: That's like defending the idea of using a car as a boat by saying "of course it has wheels! It's a car! How would it drive around without them?". The argument isn't that a car shouldn't have wheels. It's that it doesn't belong in the sea.
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Yeshu: You know, these kind of comparisons should make sense. If you have more insight into this, how would YOU make the game to make it good and profitable?
What in god's holy name are you blathering about? We are not talking about whether it's "good" or "profitable".
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vv221: Steam was its rightful place all along. Now I hope it is going to be dropped from GOG.
I agree.

As a Linux gamer the DRM-free installers of theoretically everything here are the only reason to come here anymore besides old games of course.

DRM on GOG kinda defeats its last remaining purpose since non-discriminating pricing and "only complete versions" have been gone for a long time now.
Post edited May 20, 2020 by Klumpen0815
If I wanted to play a card games I'd BUY A fucking PACK OF CARDS!

This thread is giving me haemorrhoids!
Post edited May 21, 2020 by fr33kSh0w2012
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fr33kSh0w2012: If I wanted to play a card games I'd BUY A fucking PACK OF CARDS!
No, you certainly wouldn't! That stuff is too expensive even for me! Trust me on that one, i used to play Yugi Oh back in the day. Black market makes things worse further. But the real issue is the rules changing constantly (limited or forbidden cards and whatnot), thing which delivers devastating blows even to veterans, rich players, deck builders.

Card games is a legit scam. Even videogames on them have various glitches, omit some cards (ergo you are nowhere guaranteed to have a full collection), have microtransactions etc.