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JoaoPauloZA: Men's underwear ads having big bananas down there? Yup those exist too. Shoe commercials, workout equipment, sports supplements, etc.

Ever looked at a super hero's crotch such as in the Joel Schumacher Batman? Huge, Huge groin and nipples!
But those specific examples are for men to see and think "Hey, if I buy that product I'll look like that man", not for women's benefit.

The Batman nipples were excruciatingly cringeworthy ha ha ha! And Batgirl didn't have nipples on her outfit. Even so, a lot of the time with superheroes / villains the women are wearing much more revealing clothes than the men.

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TheGrimLord: So, a bait post is something intended to cause drama because it states an opinion that usually draws ire with many people.
If taken as opinion, I see no issue with what Jorev said. Especially when posted in a thread where the OP was asking to hide porn games.
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TheGrimLord: All of these opinions are outlandish, like your "all quality games do not have adult content" statement, which is false.
Just like your statement that people with ASD don't get the uncanny valley, which is false. You did back it up with a study but it only had 26 children as participants. (I'm not accusing you of trying to cause drama - your posts have been interesting.)

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JuWalk: Oh, the good old cry about people oppressing fictional characters is back in the thread.
Don't start trotting out that load of old nonsense again! Literally no-one in the whole thread has even mentioned that (besides you) let alone cried about it. Also, I don't think FrodoBaggins called anyone disgusting or a traitor. "disgusting porn games" is what I see. I don't think it's great calling everyone who likes porn games "little boys" (but hey, grown women get called girls all the time) but you're worse implying that people who don't like porn don't "have enough brains to separate reality and fiction".
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TheGrimLord: It appears you don't have much experience here and a few things you said were wrong. First of all, you are forgetting the entire Yaoi and BL genre.
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neumi5694: As I said, I am not interested in the hentai manga and anime stuff. So if you say I am wrong, please talk about other adult genres.
And as men getting objectified, that was not restricted to adult games, as the original statement about women was not restricted to adult games.
Btw, we might have different views of what "good" and "bad" mean. I am mostly talking about the storytelling aspect which in the illusion games wasn't really there. Tbh I don't really care about the explicit scenes, I am more interested in the story that surround them. That' why I stick to 'adult' games and don't necessarily play 'porn' games/stories (even if that's often part of them).
I'm a bit confused. Do you mean Mature 17+ or Adult 18+? You say other adult games, but not porn games? There aren't any other adult games out there without pornographic elements. If you have a game like that, it becomes Mature like the Lust For Darkness M version, where all the sex scenes have been cut. M of course, for mature.

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neumi5694: (Hint: You can also just remove the quote. Also the 'new post' button on top of the site creates a answer without quote)

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octalot: Can anyone respond to https://www.gog.com/forum/general/hide_porngames_from_the_store/post57 ? That's an answer to your question, it's directly above one of your other posts but no-one seems to have a reply to it.
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neumi5694: As I recall a study showed that in the US the rape rate was highest in the countries with the most restrivtive laws.
When it comes to games, I am against that in any way. Luckily in most (non manga, non anime, I don't know shit about them, ok?) that doesn't happen, and in even fewer the player character is involved. Such games/VNs lose their development funding, since paypal & co. don't want to get connected to that and therefore their partners have play by the rules as well.
Not really. PayPal, maybe. Bit there are still a lot of services that work just fine. Many card companies and Patreon have no issue funding the stuff. Remember, most 3D Rendered games thrive on Patreon support. Also, someone has to fund Only Fans, Fansly, My Fans, (Legendary Fans I think is another?) and whatever the heck else these sex workers use. Money is money and no one has broken any laws. I think it was just Mastercard, but I don't use them anyway. They should change their name to Losercard imo.
Post edited October 07, 2022 by TheGrimLord
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TheGrimLord: I'm a bit confused. Do you mean Mature 17+ or Adult 18+? You say other adult games, but not porn games? There aren't any other adult games out there without pornographic elements. If you have a game like that, it becomes Mature like the Lust For Darkness M version, where all the sex scenes have been cut. M of course, for mature.
I didn't say "no porn", but I said no hentai anime/manga. I don't like that, I don't play/watch it. Whatever else you like is ok (Badik for example, Bonetown, House Party).

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TheGrimLord: Not really. PayPal, maybe. Bit there are still a lot of services that work just fine. Many card companies and Patreon have no issue funding the stuff. Remember, most 3D Rendered games thrive on Patreon support.
Paypal and a few others, but yes, mostly paypal. And since they are a partner of Patreon and most games get financed there, they make the rules.
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neumi5694: As I recall a study showed that in the US the rape rate was highest in the countries with the most restrivtive laws.
My point isn't about the rate; my point is that hints, suspicions and rumours that someone's a rapist are (and have to be) treated differently to suspicions that they're a murderer.

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neumi5694: When it comes to games, I am against that in any way. Luckily in most (non manga, non anime, I don't know shit about them, ok?) that doesn't happen, and in even fewer the player character is involved. Such games/VNs lose their development funding, since paypal & co. don't want to get connected to that and therefore their partners have play by the rules as well.
Lack of Western development funding isn't the obstacle that you're assuming it is. Here's a quick round-up of what you didn't want to know: https://www.gog.com/forum/general/gog_should_make_it_clear_if_games_contain_violent_porn/post85

I think it would be risky to recommend a store that promotes those games on the homepage, particularly when the larger competitor doesn't. (Which suggests a rule where Being A Dik and Hunie Pop are good, but many of the manga VNs aren't.)
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JuWalk: Oh, the good old cry about people oppressing fictional characters is back in the thread.
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HappyPunkPotato: Don't start trotting out that load of old nonsense again! Literally no-one in the whole thread has even mentioned that (besides you) let alone cried about it. Also, I don't think FrodoBaggins called anyone disgusting or a traitor. "disgusting porn games" is what I see. I don't think it's great calling everyone who likes porn games "little boys" (but hey, grown women get called girls all the time) but you're worse implying that people who don't like porn don't "have enough brains to separate reality and fiction".
Rly? Open your eyes and read FrodoBaggins' post again. These disgusting porn games are designed to please little boys, at the expense of the woman. It is the woman that is degraded. The woman that gets paraded around like objests. The woman whose private parts are cheapened and exploited.
Does she care about fictional characters that much? Or does she still claim that fictional characters contribute to the degradation of real people, with whom they are connected only by gender? Maybe then men should start complaining about the fact that we are portrayed as villains and scum in games much more often than women?

If porn games are such a bad influence on the fate of real women - why do women themselves play them too? Maybe the problem is not in the games, but in someone's head? Just like school shootings are not to blame for shooter games, but for people.

And I repeat my question: if having sex with fictional women is very, very bad, then beating and killing them is also bad, even worse, right? After all, it promotes violence against women. So should we ban all fighting games which have female characters? And boycott the ones with no female characters for being sexist XD
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JuWalk: Open your eyes and read FrodoBaggins' post again.
The post reads to me as saying that women are portrayed in these games as objects and that has a knock-on effect for actual women, not that we should be concerned for the fictional women.

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JuWalk: Maybe then men should start complaining about the fact that we are portrayed as villains and scum in games much more often than women?
Ah but for a woman to be portrayed as a villain she would actually have to be written with some kind of personality, character and purpose beyond just looking nice for men. Perhaps you should start complaining about it though, you do seem rather cross about it.

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JuWalk: And I repeat my question: if having sex with fictional women is very, very bad, then beating and killing them is also bad, even worse, right? After all, it promotes violence against women. So should we ban all fighting games which have female characters? And boycott the ones with no female characters for being sexist XD
Hopefully you'll get an answer to your question from someone who thinks having sex with fictional women is very, very bad. I personally I've got enough brains to know it's very, very impossible because they're fictional ;)
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JuWalk: Open your eyes and read FrodoBaggins' post again.
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HappyPunkPotato: The post reads to me as saying that women are portrayed in these games as objects and that has a knock-on effect for actual women, not that we should be concerned for the fictional women.

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JuWalk: Maybe then men should start complaining about the fact that we are portrayed as villains and scum in games much more often than women?
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HappyPunkPotato: Ah but for a woman to be portrayed as a villain she would actually have to be written with some kind of personality, character and purpose beyond just looking nice for men. Perhaps you should start complaining about it though, you do seem rather cross about it.

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JuWalk: And I repeat my question: if having sex with fictional women is very, very bad, then beating and killing them is also bad, even worse, right? After all, it promotes violence against women. So should we ban all fighting games which have female characters? And boycott the ones with no female characters for being sexist XD
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HappyPunkPotato: Hopefully you'll get an answer to your question from someone who thinks having sex with fictional women is very, very bad. I personally I've got enough brains to know it's very, very impossible because they're fictional ;)
Okay, joker, to paraphrase: watching your fictional character having sex with an equally fictional woman. After all, this is the source of all the troubles and problems of the female part of humanity.

Your attempts to laugh it off in general do not change the essence of the issues.
1) If porn games humiliate and harm real women - why do they play them themselves?
2) Porn games that "objectify men", aimed specifically at the female audience, also exist, although there are fewer of them. What, it's time for us to start crying on the forums about how these terrible games ruin our lives?)
3) Does using a fictitious woman as the target of a beating also harm real ones as a result of the domino effect? If yes, will we ban a huge number of games of different genres? If not, why, what's the difference? After all, both cases can be called a bad attitude towards fictional women, which promotes the same in real life.

PS: Not in all porn games, female characters are just walking boobs. The fact that someone judges the entire genre by the worst examples is just a clear indicator of the stupidity of a person.
In general, I rarely do any micromanaging in active features or even remapping controls in games.
But I would definitely like this option and would use it actively.
If somebody like those titles, fine, have your fun...for me those are not games and I'd like to keep them out of my sight for good.

Kudos Voight-Kampff for this idea.
So, somebody give us a Community Wishlist item for this and let's vote.
Speaking of hiding what you don't like, I once again offer more flexible filtering that allows you to hide not only adult games, but also sports, walking simulators, shooters, strategies, etc. So that everyone can hide what he personally doesn't need. It's fairer and more convenient.

And those who demand a ban for all users of the game that they personally don't like for any reason - let them just go to hell
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JuWalk: 1) If porn games humiliate and harm real women - why do they play them themselves?
Some people are turned on by being humiliated and harmed. On the other hand, maybe they don't see these games as humiliating and harmful.

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JuWalk: 2) Porn games that "objectify men", aimed specifically at the female audience, also exist, although there are fewer of them. What, it's time for us to start crying on the forums about how these terrible games ruin our lives?)
Yes if it's ruining your life! Although, to keep it in perspective, the OP was asking for a way to hide games because they are uninteresting.

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JuWalk: 3) Does using a fictitious woman as the target of a beating also harm real ones as a result of the domino effect? If yes, will we ban a huge number of games of different genres? If not, why, what's the difference? After all, both cases can be called a bad attitude towards fictional women, which promotes the same in real life.
I've no idea. Are there many games where a lot of the focus is on portraying women as people to be beaten up?

P.S. If you call me stupid again I will report you.

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JuWalk: Speaking of hiding what you don't like, I once again offer more flexible filtering that allows you to hide not only adult games, but also sports, walking simulators, shooters, strategies, etc. So that everyone can hide what he personally doesn't need. It's fairer and more convenient.

And those who demand a ban for all users of the game that they personally don't like for any reason - let them just go to hell
Funnily enough, that's what I suggested previously. Let everyone hide games they don't want to see.

I think hell is a bit of an unfair punnishment just for wanting a game banned! I don't recall anyone demanding any games to be banned simply because they dislike them in this thread though...
Post edited October 07, 2022 by HappyPunkPotato
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HappyPunkPotato: I think hell is a bit of an unfair punnishment just for wanting a game banned!
A bit unfair punishment for those already in hell...

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HappyPunkPotato: I don't recall anyone demanding any games to be banned simply because they dislike them in this thread though...
You mean something like that :

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FrodoBaggins: I fully support banning the porn games.
Post edited October 07, 2022 by Gersen
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HappyPunkPotato: I don't recall anyone demanding any games to be banned simply because they dislike them in this thread though...
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Gersen: You mean something like that :

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FrodoBaggins: I fully support banning the porn games.
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Gersen:
Huge difference between "I want it banned because I dislike it" and "I want it banned because I see it as harmful".
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JuWalk: Speaking of hiding what you don't like, I once again offer more flexible filtering that allows you to hide not only adult games, but also sports, walking simulators, shooters, strategies, etc. So that everyone can hide what he personally doesn't need. It's fairer and more convenient.

And those who demand a ban for all users of the game that they personally don't like for any reason - let them just go to hell
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HappyPunkPotato: Funnily enough, that's what I suggested previously. Let everyone hide games they don't want to see.

I think hell is a bit of an unfair punnishment just for wanting a game banned! I don't recall anyone demanding any games to be banned simply because they dislike them in this thread though...
So, you are still inattentively reading FrodoBaggins' post) This person regularly calls for a ban on games of a certain genre simply because she thinks they are bad. Do I need to explain what kind of chaos will begin if everyone starts using this approach, especially if they judge the entire genre by its worst representatives?

I don't have the slightest problem with what the topicstarter is asking for. On the contrary, the more opportunities users have to customize the site "for themselves" - the better. But I'm seriously triggered by people like FrodoBaggins who yell "porn games/Mortal Kombat/Counter Strike is an evil that has a bad effect on people, ban them!".
As a child, I played GTA and did all sorts of bad things there, but I didn’t become a criminal. I played a lot of fighting games and shooters (including trash like Thrill Kill), but I didn't beat and kill people. I play erotic and porn games, but I still don't see real women as a walking vehicle to satisfy my lust, I don't see rape as something good or even just acceptable, etc. Do I have some kind of superhuman immunity to the harmful effects of bad games? Or is it because games don't have that impact, the real sources of the problem lie elsewhere, and some people are just trying to find someone easy to pin down as the culprit? And for the sake of their witch hunt, they try to write down other people as villains, they believe that they have the right to forbid these people what does not contradict the laws, etc.
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HappyPunkPotato: Huge difference between "I want it banned because I dislike it" and "I want it banned because I see it as harmful".
No the only difference is the excuse used to try to justify it.

Whenever it's because it supposedly makes peoples violent in real life, is the work of the devil or the overused "think of the children", it's always the same sort of BS excuses used by all those wanting to censor music, D&D, books, movies, video games, adult content, etc... they always have a "good reason" in their mind but it all boils down to "I don't like / am offended by something therefore nobody should be able to enjoy it".
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HappyPunkPotato: Huge difference between "I want it banned because I dislike it" and "I want it banned because I see it as harmful".
I think shooters and fighting games are harmful. They instill in people a craving for violence, because of which they then go to kill. Ban! I think platformers are harmful - because of them, children then go jumping on roofs and die. Ban! Etc. With a certain desire, evil and harm can be found even in some cute children's game.
Post edited October 07, 2022 by JuWalk