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Posted September 24, 2022
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Darvond: i3/Sway
Mentioning tiling window managers in the same paragraph as advocating for Linux to a Windows user?
Surely you're joking.

Hell, even changing to a non-US keyboard layout in Sway requires fiddling about with a config file.
Posted September 24, 2022
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Some people don't like to be treated as guinea pigs.

Sometimes it's better to use a proven and reliable software rather than a bugged cutting edge.
Posted September 24, 2022
because a OS no longer resive a security updates do not automatic means it's becoming less secure
i bet it's the other way around less users using W7 meaning less hackers gonna spend time writing hacks for W7

also i wanna add it's very likely those who use W7 still only use it for gaming nothing of value is to be found on those systems. even if being hacked it's no big deal on those systems.

only reason i not using W7 is because my AMD not have made CPU compatable with 7W.
so 10 it is.
Posted September 24, 2022
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brouer: Mentioning tiling window managers in the same paragraph as advocating for Linux to a Windows user?
Surely you're joking.

Hell, even changing to a non-US keyboard layout in Sway requires fiddling about with a config file.
Which is no more difficult than editing an ini file. Thanks to syntax highlighting, it might be even easier.
Posted September 24, 2022
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Abishia: because a OS no longer resive a security updates do not automatic means it's becoming less secure
Actually, new security vulnerabilities are discovered all the time, and when the OS no longer gets security updates, those vulnerabilities don't get patched, and hence the OS becomes less secure.
Posted September 24, 2022
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TheNamelessOne_PL: I don't mean to come across as being snarky or patronizing or anything like that, but I am just quite a bit baffled.
It's called "people don't want to upgrade" and "it works fine for them, so why change".
Posted September 24, 2022
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AB2012: Whilst I wouldn't use W7 today as some outward facing financial server, "security" issues (most of which use fringe attack vectors), are laughably overrated for a simple (mostly) offline gaming rig. "Hacking" in the real world does not involve hackers performing 100m individual attacks vs 100m individual consumer PC's sitting behind a firewalled NAT + dynamic IP one by one, they target online corporate databases containing millions of records (and they still get hacked despite running Windows 10-11 Server) then rapidly "flip" the database on the dark-web for Bitcoin. That is real-life hacking.
This has always been true. The security risks come in downloading sketchy programs or clicking links from unknown senders in sketchy emails. Those risks didn't increase significantly because of Windows 7's end of life.
Posted September 24, 2022
I probably would have stayed at Win 7, but I unfortunately had the 32 bit version, which became simply insufficient for gaming. It had the best UI by far out of all Windows.

But luckily, I got access through school to an Education version of Win 10 for free and have been running that ever since. It allows for much more customization that the Home or even Pro versions, like completely disabling updates for example. The 10 UI is a bit worse than 7, but nothing major. Seeing the UI of 11 however made me throw up in my mouth a little. I sure as hell won't be upgrading to 11 and to be honest, won't probably upgrade until I have to for some gaming related reason.
Post edited September 24, 2022 by idbeholdME
Posted September 24, 2022
If you have a lot of game software on a disc-based format and like your start menu looking as it always has, the 64bit version of Windows 7 really isn't a terrible operating system choice for an offline computer that it used for running single-player games.
Posted September 24, 2022
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TheNamelessOne_PL: I don't mean to come across as being snarky or patronizing or anything like that, but I am just quite a bit baffled.

Apparently, there's still a very sizeable subset of people who are using Windows 7. As an example, recently, news dropped that newer updates of Cyberpunk 2077 may not support Windows 7. Like, I would've thought that anyone with a PC strong enough to play Cyberpunk would have already switched to a newer OS.

Using Windows 7 is basically begging for hackers or malware to take over your system. Windows 7 has not received security updates in, like, 3 years. It's a massive, gaping security hole just waiting to be taken advantage of by any half-decent script-kiddie.

If you don't want to use Windows 10 or 11, which I understand, why not install a Linux distribution like Ubuntu, Linux Mint, Arch Linux, etc.? So much more lightweight, user-friendly, less bloated, and they are receiving security updates, which Windows 7 is not.

Thoughts?
You shouldn't be baffled at all and it is nothing like as bad as you say, nowhere near it. You have listened to all the hype from those companies who stand to benefit from continually selling you hardware and software.

While Win XP was a pretty good OS and one I still love, Win 7 was even better in some ways. I still use both, as well as Win 8.1 and Win 10 and now Win 11. I know which ones I prefer, and it ain't the recent variants. Linux is still not a viable replacement for Windows for most people.
Posted September 24, 2022
How are people still using Windows 7? With their PCs, mostly...
Posted September 24, 2022
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TheNamelessOne_PL: I don't mean to come across as being snarky or patronizing or anything like that, but I am just quite a bit baffled.

Apparently, there's still a very sizeable subset of people who are using Windows 7. As an example, recently, news dropped that newer updates of Cyberpunk 2077 may not support Windows 7. Like, I would've thought that anyone with a PC strong enough to play Cyberpunk would have already switched to a newer OS.

Using Windows 7 is basically begging for hackers or malware to take over your system. Windows 7 has not received security updates in, like, 3 years. It's a massive, gaping security hole just waiting to be taken advantage of by any half-decent script-kiddie.

If you don't want to use Windows 10 or 11, which I understand, why not install a Linux distribution like Ubuntu, Linux Mint, Arch Linux, etc.? So much more lightweight, user-friendly, less bloated, and they are receiving security updates, which Windows 7 is not.

Thoughts?
Hi Geralt

I use 7 and am happy to continue to baffle you.

I note that you do not sate the OS you use.

I also think you continue to demonstrate the fact that you don't know what you are talking about.
Posted September 24, 2022
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TheNamelessOne_PL: I don't mean to come across as being snarky or patronizing or anything like that, but I am just quite a bit baffled.
People may be using older PCs that don't run Windows 10/11 comfortably, or at all. I e.g. have one older laptop with 3GB RAM which I feel is too little to run Windows 10, and another 4GB RAM laptop which doesn't run Windows 11 at all because it doesn't fulfill the requirements.

I am running Linux on them, but others might not want to go that route if their only purpose is to run some older games on such older systems. Then you have to actually learn using Linux, and learn how to run Windows games on it.

I also still have one or two older PCs which are running even Windows XP and/or Windows 98SE, for some really old CD games. I haven't used them much though.
Posted September 24, 2022
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Warloch_Ahead: Maybe Windows 8 scared them from upgrading. Not that I should laugh, not like I'll upgrade to 11 anytime soon.
With malware approaches to updating, where you can't click no and have to upgrade, oh and you're forced to download the Upgrade and share it afterwards using your own bandwidth....
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hudfreegamer: Windows 7? I'm still using Windows XP.
XP still my favorite :)

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Abishia: because a[n] OS no longer [receives] security updates do[es] not automatic means it's becoming less secure
True. Actually without forced updates i find it typically more secure. First thing i do on any OS i install is remove auto updates. I've never had a problem. In the event something needs an upgraded package or patch, i get that as necessary and that's it.

Sides a properly set up firewall keeping connections out, and not running shady programs and turning scripting off on your browser except where needed, seems to do quite well in keeping it all safe and secure.
Posted September 24, 2022
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AB2012: 99% of the 70,000 PC games using DirectX 5-11, OpenGL or Vulkan API's work flawlessly, which just goes to show how little the "core" of Windows has changed, and how much W8, W10, W11, etc, is more about endless unwanted UI makeovers than some radical under the hood changes. I have simply noticed zero practical difference in gaming on the W10 vs W7 computers, even today in 2022.
Worth noting that this, in part, is the result of Microsoft prioritizing backwards compatibility over fixing bugs. I am pretty sure that there are bugs and misfeatures in the Windows API that have been kept solely because some piece of software relies on the buggy behavior to function.

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brouer: Mentioning tiling window managers in the same paragraph as advocating for Linux to a Windows user?
Surely you're joking.

Hell, even changing to a non-US keyboard layout in Sway requires fiddling about with a config file.
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Darvond: Which is no more difficult than editing an ini file. Thanks to syntax highlighting, it might be even easier.
And certainly easier (and safer) than editing the Windows registry.
Post edited September 25, 2022 by dtgreene
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