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I don't know, F.E.A.R. attempts of scares is not as effective to me because of the mere fact that its all about a little girl with psychic powers named Alma (Well she's not a little girl thats for sure). And the player character is the son of Alma, so I don't feel that fear if the antagonist is that truly antagonistic to the player character. And its even worse in the second game when Alma tries to fuck the Protagonist to make a Demon Baby and live evilly ever after.

Doom 3, I go to hell itself, full of demons that want to buttfuck me and eat my intestines while alive, and Hell looks more creepier than Offices with poor lighting.
Post edited January 24, 2018 by Elmofongo
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Elmofongo: hell looks more creepier than Offices with poor lighting.
I second that.
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Elmofongo: hell looks more creepier than Offices with poor lighting.
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springtoiffel: I second that.
Heck I was thinking these places would make for very good Splinter Cell levels though.
I found F.E.A.R. boring. :P

Also, there is something more infinitely terrifying about space. It's hostile, desolate. In space anything can kill you. In an office all you need to worry about are is getting your tie caught in a paper shredder.
Post edited January 24, 2018 by tinyE
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springtoiffel: I second that.
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Elmofongo: Heck I was thinking these places would make for very good Splinter Cell levels though.
yup, that would've been more fitting.
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Elmofongo: Heck I was thinking these places would make for very good Splinter Cell levels though.
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springtoiffel: yup, that would've been more fitting.
Indeed so Babadook.
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springtoiffel: yup, that would've been more fitting.
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Elmofongo: Indeed so Babadook.
seen the film? :D
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Elmofongo: Indeed so Babadook.
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springtoiffel: seen the film? :D
Yep, scariest part is the pop up book.
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Elmofongo: Indeed so Babadook.
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springtoiffel: seen the film? :D
Loved the end.
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springtoiffel: seen the film? :D
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Elmofongo: Yep, scariest part is the pop up book.
I wish I would have bought one of those books ....
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springtoiffel: seen the film? :D
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tinyE: Loved the end.
great film, great ending!
I remember playing the F.E.A.R. demo back in the day and being completely on edge all the way through thanks to the atmosphere and constant creepy feeling of threat the game created through its sound design, lighting, etc..

However, when I finally played the full game years later that was completely gone. I still immensely enjoyed it as a shooter with what is probably still the best AI in the genre. But as a supposed horror game it fell completely flat.

I don't know, maybe I was desensitized in the mean time by all the Japanese little-child-horror movies...
Admittedly I haven't played FEAR. But from what I've seen of it, yeah, there really is nothing scary about it. A bit creepy, a bit sppoky, but really it's just a shooting game. In dark, empty office buildings.

I have a theory: the more people complain about a "horror" game, the more uncomfortable they are with it. That is to say, the game has successfully evoked feelings of discomfort. And boy do people complain about Doom 3's darkness and flashlight *a lot.* And these two are exactly the two things that really make Doom 3 work; without them, all it is is a completely mediocre shooter.

I've seen similar complaints about the enemies & fighting in Alan Wake, and I think it's just that people can't handle it. They can't accept and deal with the discomfort, so they just call the game bad.
Post edited January 24, 2018 by clarry
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Elmofongo: I don't know, F.E.A.R. attempts of scares is not as effective to me because of the mere fact that its all about a little girl with psychic powers named Alma (Well she's not a little girl thats for sure). And the player character is the son of Alma, so I don't feel that fear if the antagonist is that truly antagonistic to the player character. And its even worse in the second game when Alma tries to fuck the Protagonist to make a Demon Baby and live evilly ever after.

Doom 3, I go to hell itself, full of demons that want to buttfuck me and eat my intestines while alive, and Hell looks more creepier than Offices with poor lighting.
How early do you find out that you're her son? Because I agree that if you know you're her son then you know you don't have anything to fear from her. I remember figuring that out, but I can't remember where in the game I was.
Incidentally, the game tries to tell a creepy story through voice messages, and to date the game that does this best for me is System Shock 2.

I enjoyed Doom 3 a lot, but the jump scares wore off after a while. The only standout thing I can remember that I found unnerving were those damn spider things :P
ya definitely found the original doom 3 scarier than fear.
I found neither scary.

As a game I find FEAR has a better flow (at least the main game). Doom 3 admittedly has the better environments.

In general FEAR was more fun... I took me several years and quite a number of attempts to make it through Doom 3 since I always felt bored by the latter at some point.