Posted April 19, 2016
victorchopin
Laika's man
Registered: May 2011
From Congo, Republic of
viperfdl
New User
Registered: Nov 2008
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Posted April 19, 2016
victorchopin
Laika's man
Registered: May 2011
From Congo, Republic of
Posted April 19, 2016
victorchopin
Laika's man
Registered: May 2011
From Congo, Republic of
Posted April 19, 2016
ps: I'm always late for the parties.
I'm like Kyle from South Park. Fallout 4 is gold as heck and I'm merely diggin' myself into Fallout 2 ;D
Sorry for so many "I'ms" in here ;P
I'm like Kyle from South Park. Fallout 4 is gold as heck and I'm merely diggin' myself into Fallout 2 ;D
Sorry for so many "I'ms" in here ;P
Starmaker
go Clarice!
Registered: Sep 2010
From Russian Federation
Posted April 19, 2016
Love the guy's initial comments:
https://www.kickstarter.com/profile/707811692/comments
Backed his own project, too.
Seriously, this is a scam.
Yes, kickstarters sometimes fail, take longer than necessary, the creators realize they actually can't deliver, etc. However: the basic premise of Kickstarter is that you ask for as much money as you think you need to finish the project. Maybe you only need to pay for assets. Maybe you're the asset person and you need a programmer. Maybe you want to draw a salary. Maybe everyone is getting paid in hopes and dreams and unicorn farts. Maybe you've procured additional funding. Maybe you've already sold your house and car and are now secretly carrying a gay Republican's surrogate babby, for money. None of these schemes is inherently more "honorable" or "fair", and while disclosure where the funds are going helps prospective backers to adjudicate project viability, it's not really a requirement. "I'm filthy rich but I'd rather you paid me $500k upfront if you want me to do X" is as valid a crowdfunding offer as anything.
But all this implies the project creator actually intends to deliver if the money is collected.
Games take literally millions of dollars to make. The fact we were able to do ANYTHING with < 500k is a testament to our devotion, passion and personal sacrifice. Ultimately it wasn't to be, but that in no way means we didn't try we everything we had. We set our goal much lower than we should have, but any more and we wouldn't have gotten it. It's a huge risk either way.
"Please give us $100k to finish the game (but actually if we don't get $2M, and I know we won't, you ain't getting shit)" is a scam.
Inb4 "blah blah kickstarter pledges are basically donations, if you need to be 100% sure you'll get the reward, don't back." Uh nope. Donations are donations, too. If you're collecting money for Ecuador but it's actually going to Panama, it's a scam even though the donors don't expect to get anything in return.
I didn't back Nekro, and I don't remember if I was banned before or after the campaign went live, but this is one reason why I don't regret my ban in the slightest.
https://www.kickstarter.com/profile/707811692/comments
Backed his own project, too.
Seriously, this is a scam.
Yes, kickstarters sometimes fail, take longer than necessary, the creators realize they actually can't deliver, etc. However: the basic premise of Kickstarter is that you ask for as much money as you think you need to finish the project. Maybe you only need to pay for assets. Maybe you're the asset person and you need a programmer. Maybe you want to draw a salary. Maybe everyone is getting paid in hopes and dreams and unicorn farts. Maybe you've procured additional funding. Maybe you've already sold your house and car and are now secretly carrying a gay Republican's surrogate babby, for money. None of these schemes is inherently more "honorable" or "fair", and while disclosure where the funds are going helps prospective backers to adjudicate project viability, it's not really a requirement. "I'm filthy rich but I'd rather you paid me $500k upfront if you want me to do X" is as valid a crowdfunding offer as anything.
But all this implies the project creator actually intends to deliver if the money is collected.
Games take literally millions of dollars to make. The fact we were able to do ANYTHING with < 500k is a testament to our devotion, passion and personal sacrifice. Ultimately it wasn't to be, but that in no way means we didn't try we everything we had. We set our goal much lower than we should have, but any more and we wouldn't have gotten it. It's a huge risk either way.
Inb4 "blah blah kickstarter pledges are basically donations, if you need to be 100% sure you'll get the reward, don't back." Uh nope. Donations are donations, too. If you're collecting money for Ecuador but it's actually going to Panama, it's a scam even though the donors don't expect to get anything in return.
I didn't back Nekro, and I don't remember if I was banned before or after the campaign went live, but this is one reason why I don't regret my ban in the slightest.
Post edited April 19, 2016 by Starmaker