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g2222: Don't make this a matter of pride or "superiority". I just wanted to stop you from doing something extreme after a small hickup. Whatever, just do what you want.
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P. Zimerickus: yea ssuuuure and wait for the next time you suddenly find yourself wanting to stop someone.. maybe we are better of with discussing this now, no? You can send private message if you like
The file has not been deleted but just sent do quarantine by Norton.
You can bring it back from there (don't ask me how to exactly, I don't use Norton).

There are 2 things that can happen.
Norton sees it as a thread right now.
Norton doesn't do anything.

My bet is on, Norton will do nothing at all, because most likely somebody else reported the file already as a false positive and Symmatec put it on the whitelist for Norton, AVG and Avira (as said, they are all basically the same these days with one might use less aggressive settings then the other , so they share false positives).

If you are that insecure about false claims of your AV, switch to one with fewer (I already mentioned Nod32 or even the MS Defender, that is a full fleshed out AV on its own).
Not sure how Symatec survived till today by all the shit their software did in the past.
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randomuser.833: Not sure how Symatec survived till today by all the shit their software did in the past.
I think it's an 'Apple' thing similarity.
I read your post again and, that seems like good advice to anyone.

In the past i did run with MS only and other virus/protection devices but in my experience they all felt short when i compare them to Norton. Never gave Nod32 a chance though, that one seems to be very expert minded, The title alone.

Don't get me wrong here, i do appreciate Norton even though it might be a bloated piece of experience here and there. It does deliver and for the past years i had lesser problems with my system, outside Windows updates, than before.
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randomuser.833: ).
Not sure how Symatec survived till today by all the shit their software did in the past.
By making inexperienced users freak out over nothing. Heuristic finds are great (for the snake oil merchants) because they make the world seem dangerous and "prove" that their snake oil is "working".
Post edited 4 days ago by Randalator
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P. Zimerickus: In the past i did run with MS only and other virus/protection devices but in my experience they all felt short when i compare them to Norton. Never gave Nod32 a chance though, that one seems to be very expert minded, The title alone.
They only fell short in inflated user interface, resource usage (CPU power and RAM), false positives and scaring the user.
MS Defender might have a very small interface and very few options, but it is build to simply do its work for uniformed users in a way that they can't break things.

Sleek user interface, less "statistics" (in brackets for a reason) and fewer messages doesn't say anything about the software behind.
In AV comparison, Norton isn't better. Sometimes it got a slight edge on heuristic discoveries at the cost of much more false positives.
And even the heuristics tests are kinda misleading, because they throw know bad stuff against just the heuristic with normal AV detection either turned off or not up to date, when reaction time of AV companies is in the hours.

If anyone in the past years found advanced attacks to whatever kind of system - it was not Norton/AVG/Avira.
Sometimes it was Eset (Nod), sometimes it was Kaperski (other problems) sometimes it was Sophos.
Norton in 2025 +_+

Also, people should really learn about false positives
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P. Zimerickus: This means i need to reinstall the whole pc again I think.. Just to be sure
Yeah, better safe than sorry. Let us know how it went.

If I were you, I would actually reinstall Windows from scratch two or three times, at least. Just to be sure nothing malicious was left over.

Also, replace the whole PC while you are at it. Otherwise you just can't be fully sure. And your internet operator as well of course, how can you know you didn't get the malware through them?

In case you have a wife, maybe re-marrying would also be an option, in case she is the one who infected the PC with her actions.

Whatever you do though, don't replace Norton. It has kept you safe this long, hasn't it?
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P. Zimerickus: Just got a message from norton that they found some playnite file 'suddenly' infected with IDP.Generic
As software risk goes, open-source Playnite is as safe as it realistically gets. Far more trustworthy than what Windows itself is gradually turning into. "IDP.Generic" is virtually guaranteed to be another one of the 9 trillion false positives that plague the industry every week. And that's ignoring when a major vendor like Microsoft decides to have Defender intentionally flag entirely safe software as being "Malware" simply because it "doesn't like it" and other anti-virus vendors then just blindly copy-paste the flag without detecting anything.

See ExplorerPatcher's release notes : "Caution: Microsoft and other major antivirus vendors have flagged ExplorerPatcher as "malware". This is likely due to Microsoft's hatred against ExplorerPatcher, not because it contains a virus or such. Flags from Microsoft usually spread to other antivirus vendors" to see how multiple anti-virus software can invent 'detection reports' without having detected a single thing.
Post edited 4 days ago by AB2012
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P. Zimerickus: In the past i did run with MS only and other virus/protection devices but in my experience they all felt short when i compare them to Norton. Never gave Nod32 a chance though, that one seems to be very expert minded, The title alone.
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randomuser.833: They only fell short in inflated user interface, resource usage (CPU power and RAM), false positives and scaring the user.
MS Defender might have a very small interface and very few options, but it is build to simply do its work for uniformed users in a way that they can't break things.

Sleek user interface, less "statistics" (in brackets for a reason) and fewer messages doesn't say anything about the software behind.
In AV comparison, Norton isn't better. Sometimes it got a slight edge on heuristic discoveries at the cost of much more false positives.
And even the heuristics tests are kinda misleading, because they throw know bad stuff against just the heuristic with normal AV detection either turned off or not up to date, when reaction time of AV companies is in the hours.

If anyone in the past years found advanced attacks to whatever kind of system - it was not Norton/AVG/Avira.
Sometimes it was Eset (Nod), sometimes it was Kaperski (other problems) sometimes it was Sophos.
I'm sure you know what you are talking about, still they atm are part of the biggest security concern of the world
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P. Zimerickus: This means i need to reinstall the whole pc again I think.. Just to be sure
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timppu: Yeah, better safe than sorry. Let us know how it went.
Well im back to my pc again.... windows updated its boot process, it looks sleeker than the last time....

atm my game quicklinks are together in a folder , no more launchers!

Currently trying out Dragon Age, Veilguard
Ara History Untold
Cities Skylines II
Crysis Remastered
Anno 1800
Age of Wonders 4
Operencia the stolen Moon
The dungeon of Naheulbeuk
Shadow Empire
Distant Worlds 2
Total Warhammer III
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P. Zimerickus: Just got a message from norton that they found some playnite file 'suddenly' infected with IDP.Generic
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AB2012: As software risk goes, open-source Playnite is as safe as it realistically gets. Far more trustworthy than what Windows itself is gradually turning into. "IDP.Generic" is virtually guaranteed to be another one of the 9 trillion false positives that plague the industry every week. And that's ignoring when a major vendor like Microsoft decides to have Defender intentionally flag entirely safe software as being "Malware" simply because it "doesn't like it" and other anti-virus vendors then just blindly copy-paste the flag without detecting anything.

See ExplorerPatcher's release notes : "Caution: Microsoft and other major antivirus vendors have flagged ExplorerPatcher as "malware". This is likely due to Microsoft's hatred against ExplorerPatcher, not because it contains a virus or such. Flags from Microsoft usually spread to other antivirus vendors" to see how multiple anti-virus software can invent 'detection reports' without having detected a single thing.
Yea, i can imagine corporate bimbo's breaching their own code of conduct
Post edited 4 days ago by P. Zimerickus
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P. Zimerickus: Currently trying out Dragon Age, Veilguard
Malware detected!
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P. Zimerickus: Currently trying out Dragon Age, Veilguard
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timppu: Malware detected!
No matter what they say! No matter what i hear, i'll probably be a branch guy no matter what!!