Posted December 10, 2010
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rabblevox
Frakkin' Cylon
Registered: Dec 2010
From United States
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Jaime
Valiant Forever
Registered: Apr 2009
From Germany
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Orryyrro
Flying Squirrel!
Registered: Mar 2010
From Canada
Posted December 10, 2010
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Most students are merely putting in their time for a degree.
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orcishgamer
Mad and Green
Registered: Jun 2010
From United States
Posted December 11, 2010
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Most students are merely putting in their time for a degree.
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So what it means is nothing, in the 1950s only 13% of the US population attended university. More people are paying money and going to some classes, I'd argue about 13% are still getting a reasonable education, especially given the costs that are skyrocketing way faster than inflation.
The dumbed down standard admission process is actually making these schools worse. They are getting so many applications now, shotgun style, that they accept less than 10 percent at many schools and less than 1/3 accept the placement. That is pathetic.
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michaelleung
YOU ARE ALL RETARDS
Registered: Sep 2008
From Canada
Posted December 11, 2010
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Except it's not the government/state/country behind it. It's just a TV company that has been enforcing this on them, and have even managed to make it "law" that people HAVE to pay them.
Think of it this way: BBC demands you pay them X amount of money just because you have a TV. Even if you do not watch their channel, or have access to their channel.
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Orryyrro
Flying Squirrel!
Registered: Mar 2010
From Canada
Posted December 11, 2010
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So what it means is nothing, in the 1950s only 13% of the US population attended university. More people are paying money and going to some classes, I'd argue about 13% are still getting a reasonable education, especially given the costs that are skyrocketing way faster than inflation.
The dumbed down standard admission process is actually making these schools worse. They are getting so many applications now, shotgun style, that they accept less than 10 percent at many schools and less than 1/3 accept the placement. That is pathetic.
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orcishgamer
Mad and Green
Registered: Jun 2010
From United States
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evilguy12
evil and a guy
Registered: Sep 2008
From United Kingdom
Posted December 11, 2010
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El_Caz
Panamaniac!
Registered: Oct 2008
From Panama
Posted December 11, 2010
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The answer really depends on whom you ask. From my perspective it was a necessary evil, one I was actually hoping for but when it happened it really felt like the price was too high. Noriega had a non-uniformed militia, so lots of innocent (and guilty) civilians died. It was still a relief though and people went to the streets to celebrate on the day we were told Noriega had seeked out asylum at the ... well, I don't know how to say it in english, but it's the "Nunciatura" which is like the Vatican's embassy in Panama.
Then again, those who lived near the military bases of the panamanian army paid a high toll. They were evacuated, houses destroyed, there was major looting throughout the city and years later, common graves were found while the real number of total victims from the invasion was never fully known. There are a lot of people who will remember it with sorrow, anger and bitterness, since they lost everything or a loved one, while there are others who will remember it as a good thing, since it was the end of a dictatorship.
I was a teenager at the time and remember it vividly. The country had been held by an economic embargo and after Noriega had been sent to Miami, the money from international help started pouring in. I remember watching an armored car passing right next to our building on the way to the bank, escorted by a blackhawk helicopter flying barely above the buildings. I remember walking past american patrols on the streets while I was taking the dog out for a walk. It was all very surreal.
Nowadays, the average twenty year old only knows any of this from the history books (it happened in 1989, so add around 4-6 extra years for a kid to remember things happening around him and the minimum age would be around 25). Sometimes you see people with Noriega stickers on their cars, not really knowing what kind of man he was or maybe knowing and wishing for something like that to return, since in the end, Noriega wasn't alone and many of those who were close to him probably wish those "golden" days could come back.
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Rodzaju
Official Bastard
Registered: Jan 2010
From United Kingdom
Posted December 11, 2010
In response to Finnish celebrities, there have been a number of Finnish formula 1 drivers:
Mika Hakkinen, Keke rosberg, Heikki Kovalainen, Kimi Raikkonen....
Kimi Raikkonen won the 2007 World Championship.
Mika Hakkinen, Keke rosberg, Heikki Kovalainen, Kimi Raikkonen....
Kimi Raikkonen won the 2007 World Championship.
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Orryyrro
Flying Squirrel!
Registered: Mar 2010
From Canada
Posted December 13, 2010
i have another question, is there any particular reason that Americans call back bacon "Canadian bacon"?
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ChaunceyK
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Registered: Jun 2009
From United States
Posted December 13, 2010
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Orryyrro
Flying Squirrel!
Registered: Mar 2010
From Canada
Posted December 14, 2010
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Nazarush
New User
Registered: Nov 2010
From United States
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ChaunceyK
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Registered: Jun 2009
From United States
Posted December 14, 2010
Really? I had no idea. I always assumed Canadian Bacon / Back Bacon was the primary bacon in Canada. Hmm, learn something new every day.
This would not surprise me at all. Makes me double-think Irish Coffee, German Potato Salad, and Bolivian Neckties...no wait, scratch that last one.
This would not surprise me at all. Makes me double-think Irish Coffee, German Potato Salad, and Bolivian Neckties...no wait, scratch that last one.
Post edited December 14, 2010 by ChaunceyK