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Posted June 11, 2018
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Awful lot of pages on the Introducing GOG Connect topic. Perhaps that topic should be culled and split off into another, with only helpful questions and answers left behind.. So anyway, I am not gonna read it all to find out answers to what may or may not have been provided.

1. What determines the games that appear on GOG Connect?
Recently I was able to see and even get one for the first time - Amnesia_a_machine_for_pigs
I also have another Amnesia game at Steam - Amnesia_the_dark_descent
2. So why isn't that second game, which is also currently on sale here, also available on GOG Connect?
And I have a few others at Steam, that I know are available here at GOG.
3. Is it all down to developers, whether a game is made available via GOG Connect?

4. A friend of mine here at GOG, has FTL at Steam, but it currently isn't being recognized. I presume he has it setup correctly. But maybe that happens a lot?

I don't know how most feel, but I certainly feel it is double dipping, when they expect you to pay twice for a game.
5. So why aren't they all free at Steam or GOG, if you have them at the other store already?

6. And why is there no middle ground?
Like if I own a game at Steam, why can't I at least get it really cheap here at GOG ... and vice-a-versa?

GOG Connect, sounds a wonderful thing, but is badly underutilized from what I have seen.
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Posted June 11, 2018
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Timboli: Awful lot of pages on the Introducing GOG Connect topic. Perhaps that topic should be culled and split off into another, with only helpful questions and answers left behind.. So anyway, I am not gonna read it all to find out answers to what may or may not have been provided.
I know, right? If only they could bother to put... I dunno... a friggin FAQ on the goddamn GOG Connect page so peeps could get the answers to any questions they had about this service. But nooooooo, they'd never do something like that...
Posted June 11, 2018
https://www.gog.com/connect the FAQ is at the bottom.
Posted June 11, 2018
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Timboli: -----8<-----
1. What determines the games that appear on GOG Connect?
Recently I was able to see and even get one for the first time - Amnesia_a_machine_for_pigs
I also have another Amnesia game at Steam - Amnesia_the_dark_descent
2. So why isn't that second game, which is also currently on sale here, also available on GOG Connect?
And I have a few others at Steam, that I know are available here at GOG.
3. Is it all down to developers, whether a game is made available via GOG Connect?
I would think the answer to number 3 would be "Yes" and then the questions 1 and 2 could be figured out from there. However that depends on whether you believe software developers make money from each purchase, or that a digital store has already given the software developers money in advance as if digital products were the same as material products. Regardless of which way it might be for a game (or any digital product), somebody is losing out.

I think it's rather obvious stores are not public libraries, they are businesses, their expenses aren't being covered by public taxes.
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Timboli: 4. A friend of mine here at GOG, has FTL at Steam, but it currently isn't being recognized. I presume he has it setup correctly. But maybe that happens a lot?

I don't know how most feel, but I certainly feel it is double dipping, when they expect you to pay twice for a game.
The FAQ at the bottom of the GOG Connect page didn't give you any clues on that one?
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Timboli: 5. So why aren't they all free at Steam or GOG, if you have them at the other store already?

6. And why is there no middle ground?
Like if I own a game at Steam, why can't I at least get it really cheap here at GOG ... and vice-a-versa?

GOG Connect, sounds a wonderful thing, but is badly underutilized from what I have seen.
I think the answers to 5 and 6 are extremely obvious, as obvious as the answers to 3 and 2 and 1. You are not buying directly from the software developer, you are buying from the middlemen.

If you already bought a game at one place, then why do you need a second source for yourself other than your own personal backups? Think about that one. You are asking for something more and wanting to offer nothing more in return. And from each and every middleman.

What do you think life is, some sort of game? :-)
Posted June 11, 2018
I reckon it is all about the developer's and GoG's generosity to offer them free copies if they already own it on Steam.

This both helps the developer and GoG marketing wise because of the increased exposure and a taste of DRM-free games from GoG :)

From what I can see GoG connect does not have any ties with Steam except for the usage of their API to get the list of games from a user, so there is no real monetary profit for them here.

Offering all games would be ridiculous even for marketing purposes if what I have said is true. There isn't much left to speculate I guess, unless GoG and Steam have ties with each other.

Let us see what the staff has to say on this matter :)

Regarding the FTL game, I think it is a bug most likely on GoG's side. One of the users having problems with redeeming it is a friend of mine, and he says that GoG is not recognizing the FTL game in his Steam library.
Posted June 11, 2018
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muntdefems: I know, right? If only they could bother to put... I dunno... a friggin FAQ on the goddamn GOG Connect page so peeps could get the answers to any questions they had about this service. But nooooooo, they'd never do something like that...
Well, I don't know ... maybe I wanted things spelled out much clearer ... or maybe I have an ulterior motive ... etc.

Thanks for your output anyway.
Post edited June 11, 2018 by Timboli
Posted June 11, 2018
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Timboli: Awful lot of pages on the Introducing GOG Connect topic. Perhaps that topic should be culled and split off into another, with only helpful questions and answers left behind.. So anyway, I am not gonna read it all to find out answers to what may or may not have been provided.

1. What determines the games that appear on GOG Connect?
Recently I was able to see and even get one for the first time - Amnesia_a_machine_for_pigs
I also have another Amnesia game at Steam - Amnesia_the_dark_descent
2. So why isn't that second game, which is also currently on sale here, also available on GOG Connect?
And I have a few others at Steam, that I know are available here at GOG.
3. Is it all down to developers, whether a game is made available via GOG Connect?

4. A friend of mine here at GOG, has FTL at Steam, but it currently isn't being recognized. I presume he has it setup correctly. But maybe that happens a lot?

I don't know how most feel, but I certainly feel it is double dipping, when they expect you to pay twice for a game.
5. So why aren't they all free at Steam or GOG, if you have them at the other store already?

6. And why is there no middle ground?
Like if I own a game at Steam, why can't I at least get it really cheap here at GOG ... and vice-a-versa?

GOG Connect, sounds a wonderful thing, but is badly underutilized from what I have seen.
No body EXPECTS you to pay twice for a game.IF you don't want it on GOG, then don't buy it on GOG. If you do, then do so. The fact that they offer connect at all is pretty sweet. I missed out on a TON of titles in connect by buying them here before connect was a thing.

They offer some games to entice you to buy others. They give you one so you'll buy the rest of the series. Common tactic, look at those episodic adventure games. Often times, chapter 1 is free. Think of it like that.

Connect doesn't exist to give you free games. It exists to bait you into buying more, usually. Saint's Row got a complete release on Connect though, which saved me like $15.00 when it came here.

Connect is under utilized, but they generally roll it out at every major sale to get Steam users who don't have a lot of games here to see it as a more viable option, or to help stimulate sales as stated above. They'll give you part of a series and hope you'll buy more.
Posted June 11, 2018
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thomq: However that depends on whether you believe software developers make money from each purchase, or that a digital store has already given the software developers money in advance as if digital products were the same as material products. Regardless of which way it might be for a game (or any digital product), somebody is losing out.

I think it's rather obvious stores are not public libraries, they are businesses, their expenses aren't being covered by public taxes.
No indeed.
But hey, goodwill and free promotion and all that jazz are not to be sneezed. Especially as once setup, as it is, it should be no boner going forward. It's not like they are gonna get money from me if they don't do it.
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thomq: The FAQ at the bottom of the GOG Connect page didn't give you any clues on that one?
Well, you know how it is, greater clarity and all ... and you see a button so you push it. Maybe I just want a discussion and a focus ... stranger things have happened.
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thomq: I think the answers to 5 and 6 are extremely obvious, as obvious as the answers to 3 and 2 and 1. You are not buying directly from the software developer, you are buying from the middlemen.
Yep. Middlemen who spend money on advertising. Can't think of a better, almost free, advertisement myself.
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thomq: If you already bought a game at one place, then why do you need a second source for yourself other than your own personal backups? Think about that one. You are asking for something more and wanting to offer nothing more in return. And from each and every middleman.
Mmmm maybe I want DRM-Free, and maybe like I said, I would be prepared to pay something ... just not a lot. It's not like they are gonna get any money otherwise, is it? Unless I be some fool to buy twice.
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thomq: What do you think life is, some sort of game? :-)
Hang on, just let me roll the dice and see.
Posted June 11, 2018
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paladin181: They offer some games to entice you to buy others. They give you one so you'll buy the rest of the series. Common tactic, look at those episodic adventure games. Often times, chapter 1 is free. Think of it like that.
How does that work?
Hang on ... wait ... I got it.
I have a game at Steam, they give it to me free here at GOG.
Then I am so overjoyed, that I throw sense out the window and re-buy all the other games I have in the series at Steam, here again at GOG.
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paladin181: Connect doesn't exist to give you free games. It exists to bait you into buying more.
Mmmm are you sure?
That sounds like free promotion to me ... surely not?
Sounds like they are trying to make me happy with them, so I will buy more.
Who'd have thought it?
;)
Posted June 11, 2018
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Timboli: How does that work?
Hang on ... wait ... I got it.
I have a game at Steam, they give it to me free here at GOG.
Then I am so overjoyed, that I throw sense out the window and re-buy all the other games I have in the series at Steam, here again at GOG. Mmmm are you sure?
That sounds like free promotion to me ... surely not?
Sounds like they are trying to make me happy with them, so I will buy more.
Who'd have thought it?
;)
Or perhaps you get a game you didn't own on Steam because your library has a little more value to you now. Again, the target audience is far more Steam members who have a minuscule presence here looking to expand their GOG libraries. If I have 1 or 2 games here, and a ton on Steam, but then I get 3 free games just for owning them on Steam, I might buy games here to flesh out that library more. I might start liking the place more as I check back in to see what other games they'll be offering on connect. I might tell my friends about the free DRM-free copy GOG is offering for the next 3 days if they already have a Steam copy. It's all about getting more eyes.
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