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Johnathanamz: It is a AAA video game is all that matters.
These days many AAA games are "AAA" only in marketing budgets...
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Johnathanamz: SQUARE-ENIX, Crystal Dynamics, and Eidos Montreal can litteraly release Marvel's Avengers for sale on gog.com now since they removed Denuvo and needing a SQUARE-ENIX account to log in into.
I don't understand. Unless I'm missing something, all it has done is just swap one of its two layers of DRM (Steam or Microsoft Store + Denuvo) for a different one (Steam / Microsoft Store + Square Enix account). And potentially removing one layer (Square Enix account) from those two layers still leaves it being DRM'd (Steam or Microsoft Store) even without Denuvo or Square Enix account, and it still contains pay2win "XP booster" micro-transaction crap (that's what usually forces the use of an online account). It's literally the perfect "poster child" of a game that won't release on GOG...
Post edited February 02, 2022 by AB2012
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Johnathanamz: It is a AAA video game is all that matters.
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AB2012: These days many AAA games are "AAA" only in marketing budgets...
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Johnathanamz: SQUARE-ENIX, Crystal Dynamics, and Eidos Montreal can litteraly release Marvel's Avengers for sale on gog.com now since they removed Denuvo and needing a SQUARE-ENIX account to log in into.
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AB2012: I don't understand. Unless I'm missing something, all it has done is just swap one of its two layers of DRM (Steam or Microsoft Store + Denuvo) for a different one (Steam / Microsoft Store + Square Enix account). And potentially removing one layer (Square Enix account) from those two layers still leaves it being DRM'd (Steam or Microsoft Store) even without Denuvo, and it still contains pay2win "XP booster" micro-transaction crap that virtually forces the use of an online account. It's literally the perfect "poster child" of a game that won't release on GOG...
You do not need a SQUARE-ENIX account anymore to play any of the four hero campaign stories at all.

You do not need a SQUARE-ENIX account anymore to log in into the multiplayer of Marvel's Avengers to play with your friends or to play with random people at all.
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BanditKeith2: Same on so long as a hitman fiasco doesn't happen again as games I am fine with having multiplayer locked behinda a drm style gate because well it has prestence in atleast trying to prevent cheating and most companies use servers that need the drm factor for multiplayer.. thus so long as a game is multiplayer and the drm only fires up when server side and not single player side that is to me okay.. but stuff like hitman is a no go on how that drm style crude happened
I assumed multiplayer would be gutted from the GOG version. I mean I don't particularly care if multiplayer is DRM'd or not myself but I don't really see Square Enix being willing to port it to GOG/Galaxy.
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Johnathanamz: You do not need a SQUARE-ENIX account anymore to play any of the four hero campaign stories at all.

You do not need a SQUARE-ENIX account anymore to log in into the multiplayer of Marvel's Avengers to play with your friends or to play with random people at all.
Read what I wrote again. Even with Denuvo AND Square Enix account removed the game clearly still needs either the Steam client or Microsoft Store app to run. That is not DRM-Free, therefore it won't be coming to GOG.
Post edited February 02, 2022 by AB2012
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Johnathanamz: I do not care if a video game is bad.

As long as it has ten hours worth of singleplayer campaign stories and not something like six hours of singleplayer campaign stories selling for $60 dollars (USD) "cough Call of Duty: WWII or whatever cough", then I am fine with it.
I'd rather play a good 6 hour game than a terrible 10 hour one.

I can see your argument for wanting more games released here, and broadly speaking, if there's a market for it and the rights holder is okay with releasing on GoG, it will probably happen. However, I don't think a game is special just because it's a so-called AAA title (which is a bit of a meaningless consolisation of a term). I've been gaming long enough to know that the only thing that really matters is whether the game is any good or not - not whether a company has spaffed millions of pounds on marketing so that 12 year olds in school playgrounds pester their mothers to buy it for them.
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Johnathanamz: You do not need a SQUARE-ENIX account anymore to play any of the four hero campaign stories at all. You do not need a SQUARE-ENIX account anymore to log in into the multiplayer of Marvel's Avengers to play with your friends or to play with random people at all.
Yeah I think you're missing the point it's just gone from having 3x layers of DRM to 1x. OK, but it still won't work without the Steam client running no different to any of the thousands of AAA single player games that aren't on GOG due to exactly the same Steamworks DRM...
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Johnathanamz: You do not need a SQUARE-ENIX account anymore to play any of the four hero campaign stories at all.

You do not need a SQUARE-ENIX account anymore to log in into the multiplayer of Marvel's Avengers to play with your friends or to play with random people at all.
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AB2012: Read what I wrote again. Even with Denuvo AND Square Enix account removed the game clearly still needs either the Steam client or Microsoft Store app to run. That is not DRM-Free, therefore it won't be coming to GOG.
My eyes hurt and I am tired so I read where you said without needing Denuvo and a SQUARE-ENIX account as not needing Denuvo, but needing either a MicroSoft Store account and Steam and a SQUARE-ENIX account so I miss read that.

Anyways as I said in my topic there is someone on the Steam forums who wrote why do they need a SQUARE-ENIX account to play Marvel's Avengers multiplayer on Steam and left it as a negative review this was in January of 2021.

It seems that after one year of that negative Steam Marvel's Avengers review SQUARE-ENIX finally got rid of needing a SQUARE-ENIX account?

So there are chances SQUARE-ENIX will still listen.
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BanditKeith2: Same on so long as a hitman fiasco doesn't happen again as games I am fine with having multiplayer locked behinda a drm style gate because well it has prestence in atleast trying to prevent cheating and most companies use servers that need the drm factor for multiplayer.. thus so long as a game is multiplayer and the drm only fires up when server side and not single player side that is to me okay.. but stuff like hitman is a no go on how that drm style crude happened
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tfishell: I assumed multiplayer would be gutted from the GOG version. I mean I don't particularly care if multiplayer is DRM'd or not myself but I don't really see Square Enix being willing to port it to GOG/Galaxy.
My piont is more so games on here with multiplayer the single player is drm free but the multiplayer part isn't .. Which many people are against this drmed multiplayer part .. which I understand why.. but at the same time I also don't particially care about multiplayer one way or the other as I am a couch co-op/couch multiplayer sort not a online multiplayer sort anyway as otherwise I am just a single player sort .. Because I never have liked online multiplayer something about it always rubbed me the wrong way and I always had believed it was the one step away from the lets take the Hitman fiasco for a good example .. Stuff like single player huge chunks blocked off via online connection.. Whatever the case ya Square Enix I am pretty sure any games they hold rights to that had multiplayer has been gutted that showed up here .. If I am not mistaken
Never heard of it, and there are probably very good reasons why not.
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Johnathanamz: Anyways as I said in my topic there is someone on the Steam forums who wrote why do they need a SQUARE-ENIX account to play Marvel's Avengers multiplayer on Steam and left it as a negative review this was in January of 2021.
Well it doesn't hurt for them to listen. Problem is there are single player Square Enix games that could be brought here much easier (eg, The Turing Test, Quantum Conundrum, etc) that aren't here, so removing 2 of 3 layers of DRM may not do much at all.

And the problem with games that have online micro-transactioned content (that usually require a client / online account to administer / verify content eligibility), is that in order to come to GOG one of two things must happen:-

1. The entire micro-transaction mechanism and related content all get removed. This might make the game DRM-Free but also usually ends up a second class experience through missing content vs the Steam version.

2. That content remains but is gated behind Galaxy verification checks and called "Totally Not DRM'd Bonus Content (tm)", ending up with potentially another Hitman fiasco and completely missing the point of why people want offline DRM-Free versions of games in the first place...

In short, any game with online micro-transactioned content is naturally hostile to being converted into DRM-Free versions of that game without some compromise.