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i had a lenovo ideapad Z575 .

totally decent laptop for the money with a dedicated graphics card.

my wife had a lenovo laptop and had no such luck. she calls them "lenoblow"
Which reminds me, I was just thinking of buying one Lenovo gaming laptop which seemed to have quite good specs for its under-1000€ price, like Geforce GTX 1060 and so on IIRC. But then I just read somewhere in this forum that if one intends to install Linux, then one should steer clear of Lenovos. How come?

At least on my aging ASUS ROG gaming laptop, the newest Linux Mint installs and runs beautifully without any hiccups, beside its existing Windows 7 (multiboot). I am not going to buy a Windows-only laptop that somehow prevents me from installing Linux on the side with multiboot.

I used to have a Lenovo laptop as my work laptop a long time ago and generally I liked it... BUT, two of its (three) USB ports became physically broken quite easily, leaving me only with one working USB port. Judging by the reports, that model (Lenovo T400 IIRC) had such USB port breaking issues elsewhere too.

Other than that, it worked great IMHO.
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WinterSnowfall: Their rather obscure Legion Cube mini-desktop series is great. I have this surprisingly quiet little beast sitting next to my big screen in the living room.
$1k shipping costs, wow.
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timppu: Which reminds me, I was just thinking of buying one Lenovo gaming laptop which seemed to have quite good specs for its under-1000€ price, like Geforce GTX 1060 and so on IIRC. But then I just read somewhere in this forum that if one intends to install Linux, then one should steer clear of Lenovos. How come?

At least on my aging ASUS ROG gaming laptop, the newest Linux Mint installs and runs beautifully without any hiccups, beside its existing Windows 7 (multiboot). I am not going to buy a Windows-only laptop that somehow prevents me from installing Linux on the side with multiboot.

I used to have a Lenovo laptop as my work laptop a long time ago and generally I liked it... BUT, two of its (three) USB ports became physically broken quite easily, leaving me only with one working USB port. Judging by the reports, that model (Lenovo T400 IIRC) had such USB port breaking issues elsewhere too.

Other than that, it worked great IMHO.
i love my asus rog with a 970. she's over two years old now and i still havent quite found the bang for my buck that i got with this device.
Post edited September 05, 2018 by fortune_p_dawg
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timppu: Which reminds me, I was just thinking of buying one Lenovo gaming laptop which seemed to have quite good specs for its under-1000€ price, like Geforce GTX 1060 and so on IIRC. But then I just read somewhere in this forum that if one intends to install Linux, then one should steer clear of Lenovos. How come?

At least on my aging ASUS ROG gaming laptop, the newest Linux Mint installs and runs beautifully without any hiccups, beside its existing Windows 7 (multiboot). I am not going to buy a Windows-only laptop that somehow prevents me from installing Linux on the side with multiboot.

I used to have a Lenovo laptop as my work laptop a long time ago and generally I liked it... BUT, two of its (three) USB ports became physically broken quite easily, leaving me only with one working USB port. Judging by the reports, that model (Lenovo T400 IIRC) had such USB port breaking issues elsewhere too.

Other than that, it worked great IMHO.
I have the T410 and my usb is stlll working, but it almost destroyed one of my usb sticks because it is hard the remove usb sticks from the usb ports of the T410. Other than that a really great laptop, build like a tank.
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Acriz: $1k shipping costs, wow.
Of course, I bought it from a local retailer :). I'm not that crazy.
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unisol2k1: I have the T410 and my usb is stlll working, but it almost destroyed one of my usb sticks because it is hard the remove usb sticks from the usb ports of the T410. Other than that a really great laptop, build like a tank.
The main reason those two USB ports became broken was because the ports were placed side by side with their long sides, and very close together. When I tried to connect two bulkier USB devices (like physically a bit bigger USB memory sticks), they'd push each other to the side, yanking the USB memory stick and the USB port to the side. This made the small plastic piece inside port, which is supposed to keep the USB connector in its place, break down and it would fall out in both ports.

Not sure if the material (plastic inside the port) was also somehow weak and faulty, but at least the placement of those ports so close together on their long sides was a problem. The only way to overcome it would have been to use some USB extension cables when connecting (bigger) USB memory sticks and such to it.

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fortune_p_dawg: i love my asus rog with a 970. she's over two years old now and i still havent quite found the bang for my buck that i got with this device.
Have you installed Linux on the side? You should, then you could both feel like a gaming god on Windows, and a cool IT expert wizard thingie on the Linux side.
Post edited September 05, 2018 by timppu
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unisol2k1: I have the T410 and my usb is stlll working, but it almost destroyed one of my usb sticks because it is hard the remove usb sticks from the usb ports of the T410. Other than that a really great laptop, build like a tank.
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timppu: The main reason those two USB ports became broken was because the ports were placed side by side with their long sides, and very close together. When I tried to connect two bulkier USB devices (like physically a bit bigger USB memory sticks), they'd push each other to the side, yanking the USB memory stick and the USB port to the side. This made the small plastic piece inside port, which is supposed to keep the USB connector in its place, and it would fall out in both ports.

Not sure if the material (plastic inside the port) was also somehow weak and faulty, but at least the placement of those ports so close together on their long sides was a problem. The only way to overcome it would have been to use some USB extension cables when connecting (bigger) USB memory sticks and such to it.
Yes, on the T410 the ports are still this close...
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unisol2k1: I have the T410 and my usb is stlll working, but it almost destroyed one of my usb sticks because it is hard the remove usb sticks from the usb ports of the T410. Other than that a really great laptop, build like a tank.
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timppu: The main reason those two USB ports became broken was because the ports were placed side by side with their long sides, and very close together. When I tried to connect two bulkier USB devices (like physically a bit bigger USB memory sticks), they'd push each other to the side, yanking the USB memory stick and the USB port to the side. This made the small plastic piece inside port, which is supposed to keep the USB connector in its place, and it would fall out in both ports.

Not sure if the material (plastic inside the port) was also somehow weak and faulty, but at least the placement of those ports so close together on their long sides was a problem. The only way to overcome it would have been to use some USB extension cables when connecting (bigger) USB memory sticks and such to it.

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fortune_p_dawg: i love my asus rog with a 970. she's over two years old now and i still havent quite found the bang for my buck that i got with this device.
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timppu: Have you installed Linux on the side? You should, then you could both feel like a gaming god on Windows, and a cool IT expert wizard thingie on the Linux side.
nah. i might have tried that back when i was a teen or in my early 20s. these days though, between work, kids, etc that seems like far too much effort lol.
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timppu: But then I just read somewhere in this forum that if one intends to install Linux, then one should steer clear of Lenovos. How come?
There had been some problems apparently: https://www.pcworld.com/article/3123075/linux/linux-wont-install-on-your-laptop-blame-intel-not-microsoft.html

No clue about the current state of things...
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fortune_p_dawg: nah. i might have tried that back when i was a teen or in my early 20s. these days though, between work, kids, etc that seems like far too much effort lol.
At least for me, installing Linux Mint is easier and more straightforward than e.g. installing Windows 7/64bit, like:

- Finding valid installation media, if your Windows was preloaded. Microsoft doesn't let you download the installation media unless you bought a retail Windows and instead tells you to use the "recovery media" you are supposed to have received from the PC vendor, but at least for me both in ASUS and HP those "recovery media" (which you are supposed to create yourself, and you are given a chance to create it only once for some reason) didn't simply work. Unexpected error and such bullshit, oh well.

I had to hunt down pirated Windows 7 media in order to get a clean Windows 7 installation, and then validate it with my valid (preloaded) Windows 7 product key. None of this shit on Linux, you just get the Linux installation media and install it, that's it. No fuss, no cuss, no tuss.

With Windows 8-10 this is made simpler and more straightforward with MS Media Creation Tool, but you still need to know which version of Windows exactly you are eligible for.

- With Linux, you don't have to know which version of Windows you are eligible to install. Home? Pro? Single-language version? Oh I have the Finnish version but I'd like to use the English version instead... but the stupid Home version has a restriction that you can't freely change the system language, only for Pro users.

Again, none of that shit on Linux. You are eligible to everything that any other user of that same distro is. Change the system language? Sure, why not? Run a server with assloads of users? Sure, why not, no need to buy any dedicated "Server" version of Linux. And so on and so forth.


In the end though, I guess most people don't really "need" Linux, if they are already using Windows. I just like doing many things in Linux instead of Windows... but currently gaming is not one of them. I love using bash shell instead of Windows command prompt or PowerShell, nowadays I use it even on Windows 10 at work whenever I can (git bash).
My very first laptop was a Lenovo, an 3000N200. I bought it because it was cheap. It costed €444,- new and had nVidia graphics instead of Intel GMA like most cheap laptops in that age, nVidia GeForce Go 7300. Though I later discovered that particular GeForce wasn't a dedicated chip like I thought, but had shared memory with the Intel Pentium Dual-Core T2330. With that specs, it really should be running Windows XP but it ran WIndows Vista which was just out. Having to run Vista made the whole thing very sluggish. 5 1/2 years later I sold it and still managed to get €90,- for it.
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