there are plenty of other stores those games are buyable , gog shouldn't be one of them

It also works off a horrible tag system that is controlled by users. A lot of games have a sex or nudity tag, and if you play those you will be served up anime porn by Steam. That means you could be playing The Witcher, Cyberpunk, something from Bioware, or the countless other games that will have this tag.

I'd be sort of okay with some "Adult" games coming to GOG if they were even stricter with curation. There probably is some well made, and good adult titles out there that people would want to buy, but GOG most certainly does not need a Steam situation here.

Steam is flooded with garbage now. It's a cesspool, dumpster, whatever you want to call it. It's not just actual porn, it's asset flips, shovelware, and more. Valve does absolutely nothing. Steam is treated the same way Gabe Newell cares about his health. He's a fat blob who can't even wear actual shoes anymore. Seriously, you seen this guy lately or seen interviews with him. He can only wear flip flop sandals on his feet now. Anyway... Valve doesn't care about Steam. They take a hands off approach with minimal to no effort put behind it, and let anyone self publish whatever they want while they collect the highway robbery 30% on the vast majority of every sale.

I very much agree with this statement, and if you're someone who actually likes these games than you should be buying off those stores anyways.

Mangagamer
JAST USA
FAKKU
Denpasoft
Kagura Games
DLsite

There's probably more I'm not mentioning, but those are the stores that actually care about the adult game industry, and those are who you should buy from. They need your support and help. Do you think Steam cares? They don't. They just do it because they can sit on their ass making money from selling this stuff to Steam kiddies. They'd stop doing it in a heartbeat if it was going to cause serious damage to the money machine. It's not good in the end for the adult gaming industry to have Steam be such a powerhouse in that industry.

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Personally, I'd rather GOG not go down the road of selling actual porn games. If they did, I'd want heavy curation, and only the absolute best of the best titles coming here. That's the only way I'd feel okay with it happening.

The Witcher is not porn. Cyberpunk is not porn. The Witcher, some of the Bioware games, the new Baldur's Gate 3, the old or real God of War games, (I could go on and on naming titles) are all examples of games that have sex scenes or nudity in them. The content is what you'd find in an "R" rated movie in the United States. There's no graphic depictions of sexual acts, no visible penetration, no aroused genitalia, or anything that would qualify it as being porn. It's like a softcore movie you might see at night on Cinemax or something.

If some of you refuse to see the difference, or don't understand the difference then please watch some of the scenes in these video games that have nudity in them, or even watch a softcore film, or some "R" rated movie with good sex scenes, and then compare that to an actual porno, or the images and scenes that are being sold in some of these Adult Only games on Steam. There's a big difference there.

Steam tarnishes its own brand. Most of those people don't care. Convenience, DRM, and constant sales are what they want.

And this is why I advocate the booru tagging system; organized by users, enforced by admins.

a lot of us support Gabe being pro-"porn" as you put it. PC gamers are sick of console "people" being anti-"porn".

I do enjoy you can set steam to your preferences, ignoring adult or sleazy content all together, or at least in your recommendations and day to day offers

That said,

There isn't much to be done about it

Sex sells and we all know that, it is part of the mating shizzle and such, girls learning from a young age how to look at their most attractive for boys etc etc

If there really could be a change it needs to happen in society and not on some gaming platform

Cringe. Yeah, because if you don't embrace degeneracy you're from the 1600's, super boomer.
Drink your corn syrup and play your pedophile games.
"So-called smut", if sexualized little girls doesn't meet your criteria for smut, I don't know what else to say.

They do it because they can make money off of you, and that's it. If selling that stuff was going to hurt them they'd stop doing it in a second. Just opening the flood gates so to speak saves them a ton of money. Things like curation take effort, and shows you actually care about the product and service you're selling. Valve doesn't care, and they haven't since they've become more a less a monopoly in the PC gaming space.

They're the dominate PC market, and their audience doesn't care that the store has turned into complete rubbish. So just follow course and collect that 30% on every sale while doing minimal work in the process.

There were 30,000 "titles" (and I use that word very loosely) release on Steam from 2018-2020. Just for reference there's a little over 3,200 games total on Playstation 4. How many of those games do you think would be accepted for sale on Playstation, or EGS, or GOG even? Why should Valve even bother sifting through the garbage when they're audience accepts whatever Gabe squirts out on their dinner plate while squating? That's would mean hiring more employees, and less gourmet burgers for the man who can't wear shoes anymore.

I will say that they do review all the Adult Only games that are put on the store, to keep under-aged content off, school settings, etc, but instead of outright denouncing and banning that content, they turn their back while these studios just create off-site patches to restore the underaged content that would have gotten the game banned in the first place. Valve knows what's going on with that, and turning your back and pretending something doesn't exist doesn't make you any less guilty or bad than the people actually selling it.

Just for the record - No one here is anti-porn, and think it's something that shouldn't exist. It's just a lot people feel it should exist on dedicated stores to such content, and frankly, I'm one of them.

I've actually complained to publishera about the Steam issue, and that's one of the reasons why I've requested studios to start releasing more titles on GOG or even the Epic Games Store.

It wasn't that long ago when I saw Dragon Quest XI S in a Valve published top seller list sitting right next to some Futa Dick Dine Girl game, and if you click on that game what do you see? Well, a fully nude anime girl with a huge bare chest and an huge erect you-know-what down below.

Steam is a platform for people 13 years and up, and it's fair to say that Steam is the closest thing PC has to an Xbox Live or Playstation Network. Those stores don't ship or sell Adult Only content, but on Steam you can turn this content on in the store with no I.D. Verification or manditory attachment of a Credit Card to the account. Even if you don't have the box checked in your store prefences you can type the full game name in the search bar and access it. That is not alright, and I hope the United States, or the European Union comes down on their ass, and hard someday soon.

When I saw this I reached out to Square Enix and provided images and a detailed complaint about my issue. I implored them to look at other options where people could buy thier games instead of just Steam, and I'm happy to say that we're seeing Square Enix games now on the Epic Games Store, and some even being exclusives (hopefully FF7R is next!). I don't expect them to completely abandon Steam, but I do expect them to make their software available on other platforms, so people don't have to support the dumpster fire that is Steam if they don't want to.

What is ''complete rubbish'' to you? Because I guarantee that it won't be what is complete rubbish to someone else. But besides that, steam having very little curation means that anyone around the world can make and sell a game there.

Even if its just in theory, a good game can be released by an unknown but serious and well-meaning dev and in my opinion, if whatever you're complaining about is needed to facilitate that, I don't mind. Its like asking youtube to curate every video uploaded or facebook to police every post before it publishes it.

My question is this, why do you want more barriers to who and what can sell a game? Decentralization is a unique feature present in the games industry as compared to movies, books or even press. Would you rather live in a world where companies dictate everything or finally learn to use the fucking filter system that's been around for years and block the stuff you don't want to see?

Why would I want anyone being able to sell a game there? We're seeing the end result of what no curation means for Steam, and it's not good. Steam's flea market approach, or it turning into this digusting mix of DLsite and itch.io is not what I want from a store that is considered the PC version of Xbox Live or Playstation Network. It's not a good thing for major publishers either.

It's absolutely true that a good game can be released by an unknown but serious and well-meaning developer. Those games wouldn't be passed over somehow by having curation. They absolutely get lost in the piles of garbage that is Steam though, and it's exactly why we've seen developers speak out about that very issue.

It's pretty obvious what has care an effort put into, or what is something trying something different. Curation doesn't hurt those games at all. Curation does hurt the thousands and thousands of asset flips, shovelware, and the tons of low budget anime hentai games made from free images found on the internet that "developers" are selling to you on Steam for a buck or two at most...

There's places for that kind of stuff, and it isn't sharing screen space next to software that costs millions of dollars to create, or indie titles from developers that put their heart and soul into trying to create something unique and special.

I'll never get behind what Steam has become, and I'm so happy we still have great stores and services like GOG, and the Epic Games Store where people are free to buy games and support developers without having to deal with Steam.

the reason steam started allowing it because people where complaining about not having porn games, it was around after the time of the assets flipping.

https://arstechnica.com/gaming/2019/09/is-valve-still-censoring-adult-games-on-steam/

for valve it was the dam if you do and dam if you don't situation

https://arstechnica.com/gaming/2018/06/valve-we-want-to-allow-everything-on-steam-including-something-that-you-hate/
basically it broke inside the company on what was allowed and not was allowed.
this article was from 6/6/2018[/b.
Now back in 2017 there was another issue https://www.gosunoob.com/news/steam-removes-almost-200-asset-flip-fake-games/

there was a line of Asset-Flip Fake Games

At the end of the day, people can play whatever games they want, garbage or not. I'm sure you'd throw your 386 at the wall to realize how many companies, actors, and cartoonists got their start making smutty products. Do you plan to level your shotgun at Sierra for having the audacity to sell Leisure Suit Larry?

Sex is a natural thing, and isn't something that can or should be avoided. Surprisingly, we're largely biological people here; except for the 10 of you who are actually just sleeper cell spambots.

And save for those who are asexual; or brainwashed (of religion or education) into thinking that biological reproduction is some foul act, (and that we're supposed to somehow start budding or something), most of us occasionally get an urge somewhere.

I myself, am I writer. Any fantasy I wish to entertain that with, is easily resolved. To many others; they cannot resolve this by image alone, as they have a specific fantasy, scenario, or desire thereof.

And wouldn't you know it, video games are a great way to make that interactive. So let people intract how they want. Between them and a comptuer screen, what occurs shall be a mystery but to them. Is that offending?

If you've got a problem with seeing adult games, isn't that your problem for walking behind the beaded curtain?

Just start a Wishlist entry that you don't want to see such games on Gog.
I'd probably even vote for it, am not keen on such content being sold on Gog either.

I'm not sure though if you're trolling, this "so GOG can remain pure" stuff sounds a bit trollish tbh.

Leisure Suit Larry isn't hardcore pornography, and is very far from it. How am I supposed to take anything you say seriously, when you come off completely clueless with the first example you give?

And again, I'm not saying these things shouldn't exist or shouldn't be sold. Quite the opposite in fact... I'm a pretty big Sei Shoujo fan, and I just bought the latest localized work "Closed Game" from JAST USA several weeks ago. So, no. I'm not against these kinds of games, or content at all.

What I'm saying is that they should be sold on specialized stores like the ones I listed, and not a place like Steam which has a 13 year old age for registration requirement, is the closest thing PC has to Xbox Live or Playstation Network, and anyone can turn on Adult Only content with no proper age verification at all.

And before you bring up the internet and how all this crap is accessible through that... well, there's a big difference about searching the net for stuff, and having an American company distributing and selling that shit to kids.

It is an implicitly adult game; the sort of thing the OP is clearly on a crusade against. It contains many sexual references, even if the content isn't outright pornographic. And Softporn Adventure; which was the precursor is just as verbally explicit.