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cogadh: Boll fully admits that he has made movies specifically to bomb at the box office, just to take advantage of German tax laws. He is not making movies he feels are good (except Postal, I honestly think he believes that is a masterpiece), he is making movies he knows are bad.

Do you actually have a link to that interview? I was always under the assumption that he pointed out that German tax laws allow for a return on investments, and everyone just assumes that he intentionally tries to make bad movies to take advantage of that (rather than using it as a safety net).
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cogadh: Boll fully admits that he has made movies specifically to bomb at the box office, just to take advantage of German tax laws. He is not making movies he feels are good (except Postal, I honestly think he believes that is a masterpiece), he is making movies he knows are bad.
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Gundato: Do you actually have a link to that interview? I was always under the assumption that he pointed out that German tax laws allow for a return on investments, and everyone just assumes that he intentionally tries to make bad movies to take advantage of that (rather than using it as a safety net).

Essentially, the way German tax law used to work (it was changed in 2005/2006, too late for some of the movies Boll already had in the pipe, like Dungeon Siege), investors in German-made films could write off 100% of their investment as a tax deduction and even write off fees on borrowed money. This meant investors would only have to pay taxes on any profits the film might make and if the film didn't make any profits, it was a complete write off. No Boll film (that I know of) has ever made a profit, so for Boll's investors, his movies become like a charitable contribution that guarantees at least a 50% return on the investment through tax rebates and a lower overall tax burden. He explains his funding method in the DVD commentary for Alone in the Dark:
"...the reason I am able to do these kind of movies is I have a tax shelter fund in Germany, and if you invest in a movie in Germany you get basically fifty percent back from the government."
Also this article has some great insight into the whole scam (though it does also contain some strong opinions on it as well):
http://www.cinemablend.com/features/Uwe-Boll-Money-For-Nothing-209.html
Interestingly, since the tax laws in Germany were changed, Boll is no longer able to get the funding he used to and was asking fans for help with financing his Blackout movie (offering "investors" a signed copy of the movie's DVD for a $44 investment). Fortunately, it didn't work but Boll ended up financing the film by some other means and it is still supposed to be out sometime this year.
Also interestingly, Postal was the first movie Boll made after the law was changed and it was the first movie that he actually got upset about its limited (practically non-existent) release. With the law the way it used to be, he didn't care one bit that film might only be in 300 theaters, that limited release pretty much guaranteed it wouldn't make a profit and his tax dodge scam would work. Now that he no longer has that dodge, he needs his movies to get a wider release and actually make a real profit, but Hollywood has been burned by his past movies too many times now.
The hillarious thing is that they believe people would actually have paid to see this movie. I think they were downloading it out of curiosity of how bad it actually could be.
But sjeesh, how bad does your life have to be when you get sued over a crap movie like that.
edit: Ah, didn't see cogadh mentioned the change in funding. He's actually quite savvy at business. Movies, not so much.
Post edited April 06, 2010 by cioran
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cogadh: Essentially, the way German tax law used to work (it was changed in 2005/2006, too late for some of the movies Boll already had in the pipe, like Dungeon Siege), investors in German-made films could write off 100% of their investment as a tax deduction and even write off fees on borrowed money. This meant investors would only have to pay taxes on any profits the film might make and if the film didn't make any profits, it was a complete write off. No Boll film (that I know of) has ever made a profit, so for Boll's investors, his movies become like a charitable contribution that guarantees at least a 50% return on the investment through tax rebates and a lower overall tax burden. He explains his funding method in the DVD commentary for Alone in the Dark:
"...the reason I am able to do these kind of movies is I have a tax shelter fund in Germany, and if you invest in a movie in Germany you get basically fifty percent back from the government."
Also this article has some great insight into the whole scam (though it does also contain some strong opinions on it as well):
http://www.cinemablend.com/features/Uwe-Boll-Money-For-Nothing-209.html
Interestingly, since the tax laws in Germany were changed, Boll is no longer able to get the funding he used to and was asking fans for help with financing his Blackout movie (offering "investors" a signed copy of the movie's DVD for a $44 investment). Fortunately, it didn't work but Boll ended up financing the film by some other means and it is still supposed to be out sometime this year.
Also interestingly, Postal was the first movie Boll made after the law was changed and it was the first movie that he actually got upset about its limited (practically non-existent) release. With the law the way it used to be, he didn't care one bit that film might only be in 300 theaters, that limited release pretty much guaranteed it wouldn't make a profit and his tax dodge scam would work. Now that he no longer has that dodge, he needs his movies to get a wider release and actually make a real profit, but Hollywood has been burned by his past movies too many times now.

Yeah, that is the info I know as well. But that could easily be misinterpreted.
Imagine if Your Favorite Game Designer made a very esoteric game that would be unlikely to sell well, but that catered to a very small niche. And said Game Designer said "I can make this because I won't lose money". Lots of room to interpret.
I am not saying Boll is altruistic, but I also doubt he is the evil people say.
Hell, the gaming community IS doing something like it. That Indie Game Development Fund or whatever.
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Aliasalpha: Is that the Assassin.s Creed Lineage short movie? That is fucking fanastic and the absolute pinnacle of what game based movies should be: RELATED TO THE GAME!
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akwater: It is good then?

I thought it was horrible. Interesting as an experiment, but beyond that, it's just bad in pretty much every conceivable way. Here's hoping Ubisoft will realise that Lineage can be considered a successful experiment and nothing more, and try to do better next time... Yes, I'm hoping there will be a next time. :)
Uwe Boll and McG should be given the keys to Warhammer 40k franchise.
I am quietly confident they would do a good job.
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robobrien: Uwe Boll and McG should be given the keys to Warhammer 40k franchise.
I am quietly confident they would do a good job.

Actually, a 40k movie is currently in production. Script by Dan Abnett.
Stars the Ultramarines. Not huge on the smurfs, but I have faith that Abnett's smurfs will be suitably fluffy.
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Gundato: Actually, a 40k movie is currently in production. Script by Dan Abnett.
Stars the Ultramarines. Not huge on the smurfs, but I have faith that Abnett's smurfs will be suitably fluffy.

Decent cast too with John Hurt, Terence Stamp and Sean Pertwee.
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robobrien: Uwe Boll and McG should be given the keys to Warhammer 40k franchise.
I am quietly confident they would do a good job.

What in the name of The Emperor, Slaanesh, Nurgle, Khorne, Tzeentch, The C'Tan, The Greater Good, Gork, Mork, The Laughing God and Keala Mensha Khaine are you on about?
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robobrien: Uwe Boll and McG should be given the keys to Warhammer 40k franchise.
I am quietly confident they would do a good job.
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Aliasalpha: What in the name of The Emperor, Slaanesh, Nurgle, Khorne, Tzeentch, The C'Tan, The Greater Good, Gork, Mork, The Laughing God and Keala Mensha Khaine are you on about?

I recently saw Charlies Angels 2:Full Throttle and was overwhelmed by the directors craft and subtle quality of his work, coupled with the talent of Uwe Boll i thought they alone could bring the epic scale of Warhammer 40k to celluloid.
And i forgot my medication.
In the Grimdark there is only Uwe Boll.
You know what's really sad, right? I actually secretly liked Postal. Especially the part in the Nazi amusement park (it's exactly as hilarious as it sounds) where Uwe Boll gets shot in the testicles. Also, the movie has The Soup Nazi guy as well as a midget.
I would rather watch this than, oh, say, the last Indy movie.
Post edited April 07, 2010 by michaelleung