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tinyE:
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Stevedog13: Well are you sure the dog even read the book?
Now you are just being stupid.

We got him the audio version.
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Stevedog13: Well are you sure the dog even read the book?
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tinyE: Now you are just being stupid.

We got him the audio version.
my dog sometimes sits in bed and watched cesar milan in the mornings but he never learns anything, like watching captain planet and not recycling. I think he just likes to watch when the dogs fight or something.
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tinyE: Now you are just being stupid.

We got him the audio version.
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morciu: my dog sometimes sits in bed and watched cesar milan in the mornings but he never learns anything, like watching captain planet and not recycling. I think he just likes to watch when the dogs fight or something.
Maybe it's the canine version of Cops, or NASCAR?
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Silverhawk170485: Use an electrical shock collar for dogs. If he doesn't obey you, give him a shock. Hitting a dog is in my opinion not really good. He may get affraid of your hand or the object you are hitting him with. If he is for example in a fight with an other dog he is in a rush and may even bite you if you hit him with the hand. My cousins dog bit her in her arm because she stepped between a dogfight to separate her dog from the other.
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Mnemon: Or, actually, again, don't. You create absolutely neurotic animals that way. Think about it - do you want an animal that obeys out of fear or one that cooperates because it has learnt that the 'right' things to do are intrinsically rewarding? See my reference to the research on dog behaviour up there. This type of 'training' using force and 'shock collars' might make good TV (they don't show you all the nasty sides of it; how long it actually takes) but is just wrong. Tap into the social aspects of dogs instead - they DO want to cooperate. Learn about their psychology and modern training techniques. Do get the help of a professional dog trainer if you feel unsure - that's fine; you are trying to communicate something to a non-human - which takes time to learn how to do well.
When I went with my dog to dog school they used such a electrical dog collar. So I can only say that out of my experience. I don't think that a dog gets neurotic if you only use it when you go for a walk with your dog, in this specific situation. I don't say that you should use it at home all the time.

But it's aso the same with human behavior. I'm not going to kill an other human because I'm afraid of going in jail, not because I'm getting rewarded of not killing an other human. They also have to know where is the border of what is allowed and what is not allowed.

I don't say that it is wrong to reward your dog with a thread if it does something fine but how will you calm your dog down at the very beginning when he sees an other dog, so that you can show him that he gets rewarded if he stays calm?
Post edited May 30, 2013 by Silverhawk170485
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Licurg: Making animals obey is not complicated - give him a snack when he behaves, hit him in the head when he doesn't .
Some animals don't respond to this. Cats, for example. If you do this to a cat, he or she will just poop in your shoes.