Posted August 28, 2009
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frostcircus
FACE
Registered: Sep 2008
From New Zealand
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Aliasalpha
Once Proud
Registered: Dec 2008
From Australia
Posted August 28, 2009
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There's simply no way I'm alone in this. Take the most clear-cut example of populist macho heterosexual idiocy, Gears of War - no matter how much somebody enjoys the experience of playing that game, I refuse to believe more than a small percentage would genuinely identify with what's going on. It's pure, silly, escapism.
Heterosexual? Have you seen the way Marcus looks at Dom? I think the neutral and ruthless do-gooder paths that I would most closely identify with are sadly lacking in games, in most games you tend to be railroaded into either sickening cartoonish paragon of virtue or moustache twirling supervillain.
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I share the wish for more LGBT themes in games, but only to diversify the incredibly narrow field of subject matter, to demonstrate the maturity of the industry*, and because I believe that such themes are in danger of becoming taboo, which is a terrible thing.
I must admit its pretty rare for me to feel like myself when playing an early 20s woman who's fit and has some sort of pupose in life. What games can you play a gay character in? As an initial filter, exclude the ones where the generic brothel hooker doesn't run a test for gender to see if you can employ her and have a quick fadeout with the loss of 100gp or not.
Wasn't there a sheep in one game's brothel? Arcanum perhaps?
I don't think you can really count mass effect since in the story liara was basically genderless in spite of looking. acting, sounding and probably having the inny bits of a woman.
Much the same for VTM Bloodlines since the hookers were only blood sources rather than sexual encounters
Jade Empire is the main one I can think of that had it and, more unusually, had BOTH male and female same sex options
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Snickersnack
Bak'laag Herald
Registered: Aug 2009
From United States
Posted August 28, 2009
Hmmm ... games may be getting gayer but I hope the industry doesn't forget about us lame players. ;)
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Fenixp
nnpab
Registered: Sep 2008
From Czech Republic
Posted August 28, 2009
More importantly, games are getting grayer
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Toke.738
New User
Registered: Apr 2009
From United States
Posted August 28, 2009
Can't you marry men in Fable?
And hey my female character in Fallout 2 married a woman!
And whenever I play Oblivion, to entertain myself I have to LARP up a sexually bi-confused wood elf.
"How can it be gay if I was pretending he was a woman?"
And hey my female character in Fallout 2 married a woman!
And whenever I play Oblivion, to entertain myself I have to LARP up a sexually bi-confused wood elf.
"How can it be gay if I was pretending he was a woman?"
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El_Caz
Panamaniac!
Registered: Oct 2008
From Panama
Posted August 28, 2009
No, and they shouldn't. People should understand that most games aren't really sexually based (well, the ones you find in your average gaming store at least). If you ended up making a game that doesn't have adventure or shooting or strategic warfare thinking and come up with an idea where social skills and dating and romance is involved, then by all means, make it gay friendly also.
On games where you control a character that is not of your making (most RTS's qualify) the game's hero has clearly defined objectives that are almost always not sexually based. On RPG's where you create your own character you'll sometimes find a comment or two regarding physical attraction but rarely will you end up shacking anyone (there are examples out there though. I don't mean they're non existent).
Sexual preference should not be a factor if the game's main purpose is not social interacting, but more like adventuring and tossing the player into a fantasy world where he or she is the hero destined to save it or what have you. If social interaction with NPC's and relationships with them played a factor, be it for realism sake or because it is an important part to moving the plot along, then by all means, there should be a couple of gay or lesbian characters around or do it like the Sims, where everyone is bisexual and it's really your choice who you go after.
I just don't agree to adding sexual factors where they don't belong. A prince saving a princess does not mean a man saving his lover, we just see it that way. There are many, MANY missions in all sorts of games where you end up saving another dude and it's never suggested you're saving a lover, but a friend (though in reality, we're always doing it to move the plot or the adventure forward).
On games where you control a character that is not of your making (most RTS's qualify) the game's hero has clearly defined objectives that are almost always not sexually based. On RPG's where you create your own character you'll sometimes find a comment or two regarding physical attraction but rarely will you end up shacking anyone (there are examples out there though. I don't mean they're non existent).
Sexual preference should not be a factor if the game's main purpose is not social interacting, but more like adventuring and tossing the player into a fantasy world where he or she is the hero destined to save it or what have you. If social interaction with NPC's and relationships with them played a factor, be it for realism sake or because it is an important part to moving the plot along, then by all means, there should be a couple of gay or lesbian characters around or do it like the Sims, where everyone is bisexual and it's really your choice who you go after.
I just don't agree to adding sexual factors where they don't belong. A prince saving a princess does not mean a man saving his lover, we just see it that way. There are many, MANY missions in all sorts of games where you end up saving another dude and it's never suggested you're saving a lover, but a friend (though in reality, we're always doing it to move the plot or the adventure forward).
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antifood
New User
Registered: Oct 2008
From United States
Posted August 28, 2009
I am all for a lower amount of Clichés
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Weclock
The Creeper
Registered: Sep 2008
From United States
Posted August 28, 2009
Ballad of Gay Tony? Yes, games are getting gay.
Getting gay with games.
Getting gay with games.
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El_Caz
Panamaniac!
Registered: Oct 2008
From Panama
Posted August 28, 2009
Though I find a gay main character very original, I wonder how that will translate in sales. Will those interested in playing the game just to see what's what or those who feel they need to use a gay character to feel represented be enough to compensate those who won't touch the game because they don't feel like playing with a gay character?
It's a bold and risky move, I'll give them that. The game will have to have FAR more than just main character gayness to be successful though. It'll get some positive feedback and exposure in the media for sure, so that's a plus.
It's a bold and risky move, I'll give them that. The game will have to have FAR more than just main character gayness to be successful though. It'll get some positive feedback and exposure in the media for sure, so that's a plus.
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phanboy4
Slighty Sentient
Registered: Sep 2008
From United States
Posted August 28, 2009
Are Games Getting Gayer?
No, just the Japanese ones.
No, just the Japanese ones.
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ovoon
El Psy Congroo
Registered: Sep 2008
From United States
Posted August 28, 2009
Gay people are really gay
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Thievin' Bastard
Registered: Oct 2008
From Poland
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AlphaMonkey
Head Primate
Registered: Jan 2009
From United States
Posted August 28, 2009
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On games where you control a character that is not of your making (most RTS's qualify) the game's hero has clearly defined objectives that are almost always not sexually based. On RPG's where you create your own character you'll sometimes find a comment or two regarding physical attraction but rarely will you end up shacking anyone (there are examples out there though. I don't mean they're non existent).
Sexual preference should not be a factor if the game's main purpose is not social interacting, but more like adventuring and tossing the player into a fantasy world where he or she is the hero destined to save it or what have you. If social interaction with NPC's and relationships with them played a factor, be it for realism sake or because it is an important part to moving the plot along, then by all means, there should be a couple of gay or lesbian characters around or do it like the Sims, where everyone is bisexual and it's really your choice who you go after.
I just don't agree to adding sexual factors where they don't belong. A prince saving a princess does not mean a man saving his lover, we just see it that way. There are many, MANY missions in all sorts of games where you end up saving another dude and it's never suggested you're saving a lover, but a friend (though in reality, we're always doing it to move the plot or the adventure forward).
Nail. Head. Smack.
I was going to try and make a post supporting what you've said here, but you've basically just about covered it.