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zacattack458: If cd project truly believed DRM free revolution, they would have held onto there integrity and skipped the Xbox one.
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JMich: I'm using an Enterprise copy of Windows 7 on one of my machines. The OS requires me to connect to my company's network (either by physically taking it there or through a VPN) so it can authenticate with the company's KMS server. The check isn't needed constantly, but often enough. So in essence, it works much as XBox One does. Online check to authenticate.
Should GOG not support Windows 7 Enterprise, even if it's almost the same as Windows 7 Ultimate? Or should they ignore the OS' authentication and simply not add something on top of it?
And why is Windows 7 Enterprise different from XBox One's authentication scheme?
It isn't different. That's why I'd never buy it :)
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zacattack458: That's not the point, when you against DRM, any sort of it is bad.
It IS bad, they KNOW it is bad and they are AGAINST it.
They are also releasing their game there.
I see no contradiction here.

Just because you are against something and perceive it as bad or painful, it doesn't follow that you should close your eyes and pretend to live in a world where it doesn't exist. For instance: many people hate crappy Internet connections... but, predictably, they hate not having Internet even more... So they sign up for crappy Internet, even though someone might ask them "If you hate crappy Internet so much, why did you sign up for it, hypocrite ?".

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Smannesman: I'm against working, I still do it to make a living.
Succinctly.
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zacattack458: Honestly if CD project truely believed in a DRM free revolution
It is a non-existing revolution. It is only catering for a niche audience. People in general do not care about DRM as long as it is not too draconian.
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zacattack458: That's not the point, when you against DRM, any sort of it is bad.
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Vestin: It IS bad, they KNOW it is bad and they are AGAINST it.
They are also releasing their game there.
I see no contradiction here.

Just because you are against something and perceive it as bad or painful, it doesn't follow that you should close your eyes and pretend to live in a world where it doesn't exist. For instance: many people hate crappy Internet connections... but, predictably, they hate not having Internet even more... So they sign up for crappy Internet, even though someone might ask them "If you hate crappy Internet so much, why did you sign up for it, hypocrite ?".

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Smannesman: I'm against working, I still do it to make a living.
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Vestin: Succinctly.
Not remotely the same. By offering the game on the Xbox they are supporting the system as there are plenty of other options available to them. If you sign up for 'crappy internet', however, you usually don't have a choice as that's what's on offer.

I should know, I'm in Thailand, which has some of the world's crappiest internet :)
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zacattack458: Problem I'm seeing with CD project is that they have dedicated a whole website against any form of DRM, but suddenly it's ok. Honestly if CD project truely believed in a DRM free revolution, they would have skipped xbox one
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Snickersnack: GOG is not CD Project Red. They are sister companies.
CDPR is not GOG's sister company. CDPR is GOG's parent company. GOG's a subsidiary of CDPR.
Post edited June 19, 2013 by Pheace
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Bloodygoodgames: I should know, I'm in Thailand, which has some of the world's crappiest internet :)
Damn it. I'm against crappy internet. Please stop supporting Thailand until it fixes its crappy internet. We can't go around supporting countries with crappy internet. No more service for them.
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Bloodygoodgames: I should know, I'm in Thailand, which has some of the world's crappiest internet :)
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JMich: Damn it. I'm against crappy internet. Please stop supporting Thailand until it fixes its crappy internet. We can't go around supporting countries with crappy internet. No more service for them.
ROTFL -- my job is here. No choice really :)

Actually I think we JUST got 3G a couple of months ago after three corrupt Thai internet providers spent TWO YEARS arguing about which one was going to be able to get the rights to sell it.. Bloody pathetic isn't it????
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zacattack458: That's not the point, when you against DRM, any sort of it is bad.
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Vestin: It IS bad, they KNOW it is bad and they are AGAINST it.
They are also releasing their game there.
I see no contradiction here.

Just because you are against something and perceive it as bad or painful, it doesn't follow that you should close your eyes and pretend to live in a world where it doesn't exist. For instance: many people hate crappy Internet connections... but, predictably, they hate not having Internet even more... So they sign up for crappy Internet, even though someone might ask them "If you hate crappy Internet so much, why did you sign up for it, hypocrite ?".

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Smannesman: I'm against working, I still do it to make a living.
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Vestin: Succinctly.
Just because you live in a world of DRM( so to speak) doesn't mean you have to join it
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JMich: Damn it. I'm against crappy internet. Please stop supporting Thailand until it fixes its crappy internet. We can't go around supporting countries with crappy internet. No more service for them.
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Bloodygoodgames: ROTFL -- my job is here. No choice really :)

Actually I think we JUST got 3G a couple of months ago after three corrupt Thai internet providers spent TWO YEARS arguing about which one was going to be able to get the rights to sell it.. Bloody pathetic isn't it????
So even though you don't like it, you still use it. If I'm against crappy internet, should I refuse to service those that have crappy internet or still service them, even though those with better internet get better service?
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JMich: Damn it. I'm against crappy internet. Please stop supporting Thailand until it fixes its crappy internet. We can't go around supporting countries with crappy internet. No more service for them.
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Bloodygoodgames: ROTFL -- my job is here. No choice really :)

Actually I think we JUST got 3G a couple of months ago after three corrupt Thai internet providers spent TWO YEARS arguing about which one was going to be able to get the rights to sell it.. Bloody pathetic isn't it????
I live in the middle of the outback, half then time I bearly get a connection
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Bloodygoodgames: Don't forget they are the same people that hired a law firm to send threatening letters to gamers who may or may not have 'pirated' the first Witcher. They lost a lot of my respect when they did that, as it tells you what their core values are. A shame.
I don't see anything wrong with their core value being: "We don't put artificial restrictions to the game you buy from GOG, but if you use that freedom wrong, we will go after you.". Nothing wrong with trying to catch the wrong-doers, especially if at the same time you don't cause extra inconvenience to legit users with DRM.

Not talking about you, but many people indeed seemed to have a misconception that because GOG games don't have DRM, it is ok to share them around and pirate. I hope people understand that being anti-DRM is not the same as being pro-piracy. Well, maybe for some, but fjuck them.

Were there any false positives with those letters anyway? If I got such a letter, I would just reply back "Go F* yourselves, I haven't pirated nor shared it. Thank you.". Problem solved.

Having said that: yes, I would have preferred they would have simply sued the people caught pirating or sharing their games, instead of offering an opt-out.
Post edited June 19, 2013 by timppu
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Bloodygoodgames: I should know, I'm in Thailand, which has some of the world's crappiest internet :)
OK, fine. A local example:
In my grandma's times you had to be in The Party to get anywhere professionally. Will you blame everyone who did so for supporting the system ?
To be fair - you probably wouldn't be alone in that ;P...

I dislike the idea that the only way to effect change is to make dramatic yet futile gestures or follow Gandhi. Sometimes you have to cripple something piece by piece, in the meantime not losing track of reality.

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zacattack458: Just because you live in a world of DRM( so to speak) doesn't mean you have to join it
"I would rather die than live in a world with DRM !" ?
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zacattack458: Honestly if CD project truely believed in a DRM free revolution
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amok: It is a non-existing revolution. It is only catering for a niche audience. People in general do not care about DRM as long as it is not too draconian.
Awww, that bolded part kinda watered down what you were apparently trying to say. :)
zacattack458, you're not really anti-DRM. You're not really anti-DRM until you've tattooed anti-DRM sentiments on your forehead. You're just a hypocrite.
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amok: It is a non-existing revolution. It is only catering for a niche audience. People in general do not care about DRM as long as it is not too draconian.
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timppu: Awww, that bolded part kinda watered down what you were apparently trying to say. :)
Does not change that fact that the 'revolution' is non-existing :)

And that Draconian is subjective.... So not quite sure what you are trying to say.... Some may not feel that XBox One is draconian, even if you do *shrug*