Oh well, maybe we can get a few Nihilists then. (j/k)

(I agree 100% btw.)
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It was the butler that done it.....

Good idea. I'm playing fallout currently(Fallout windowed is handy for surfing and playing all at once.).....what are you guys playing?

Dungeon Keeper 2, is that a first play or replay?

if you delete all your accounts except one, there are no more alt accounts, just your only account :) and if you act nice using this one, I have no problem with it...
Divine Divinity! I just went through the "ritual" so I think I'm closing to an end...

I played bits of it long ago, so it's a quasi replay I guess.
For some reason I didn't get far into that one, and played more of Beyond Divinity overall.(I guess I just liked the plot/setting more?)

Which reminds me: I should play a bit more BD later today.

cool to hear that, everyone keeps saying that Beyond Divinity is much worse and doesn't deserve to be played - so I'm glad that it might not be true, I wanted to at least give it a try before continuing with Divinity II...

It's a tad linear during the beginning bits, and the battlefields(A sort of pocket dimension you can hop into when you find the means to, where you can run through Diablo-like simplistic dungeons/hub worlds doing fetch quests and the like to earn better gear and cash.) can draw on with each new one you come across, but all in all I like it. The Death Knight's voice can be a bit grating to some though, but I thought it is/was funny(He always makes everything sound so serious, etc.). :)

The thing about honor is it¨'s not something you start of with, it's something you earn, this person has done nothing to earn any honor yet, so why should i take anything "on his honor"?

"There is no evidence" to support any of the sides really, there's just arguments to support both, and the arguments must naturally come from the past, and in my SUBJECTIVE eyes, i'd say the arguments heavily lean AGAINST him.

To bring up the "there's no evidence" in a case of a promise for future reference is rediculus, you cannot prove or disprove any event that is yet to happend, therefor bringing up "evidence" just shuts down any proper discussion, you must argue from the past to predict the future.
Let's look at the facts:
1: This person have been gamebegging for quite a while.
2: This person has created phony accounts just for rep.
3: There seems to be some yet older dirt dug up on him on steam (meaning he have been doing this shit for quite a while), the idea that a recent appifiny has happened isn't imposible, but i would call it improbable.

Ofc lets look at the positives
1: this person has admitted to his mistakes
2: this person has made a promise to improve his behavior

(to be honest number #2 meanings nothing to me at this point, as it is yet to be shown, previuse actions have allready downrated this persons credibility, for a promise to have worth this must first be uprated) (no im not speaking of rep here)

But even on the possitive side there is a negative 1, which no1 has mentioned yet, it might be his young mentality, but even in his "apology" he blames the "haters" or "people who downrep him" for creating the account, thereby slightly "justifying" his actions.

Exactly the opposite. At least I treat a person as an honorary gentleman / lady as long as there is no proof on the contrary.

WTF "earn honor" even mean? You either are honorary person or you're not. I asume a person is honorary as long as he or she doesn't do non honorary thing. Maybe you meant "trust is earned" - that's true. But I don't need to trust a random person on a gaming forum to accept his apology.

He said he's sorry (honorary thing) and didn't do anything that would make a stain on that image or to suspect he's lying (non honorary thing).

If you want to treat every person as a deceptive bastard, you are free to go. But it's probably hard to live that way.

a man is worth as much as his word - it works after the word is said, not before.

btw. the person you couldn't "forgive" already left this forum, so there's no reason to discuss this further.

No i meant honor is earned, you might not realise it but you weigh people's honor differently by the experiences you have with them, this might no be as obviuse to you with honor as it is with trust but it's basicly the same effect.
The shortcut is naturally some1 you trust vouching for them.
On the "you're either a honorary person or your not" issue i will ask you a question: is there only 2 grades of honor in your world? (meaning "honorful" and "not honorful")
In my world there is 10s of thousands of grades, both in the possitive side and the negative side, honor is both increased and deteriorated by the actions of zed person.
If what you say is true and every1 you meet is seen as "honorful" by yourself then the expression in practice has no meaning at all, seeing as an "honorful" person to you is basicly the same as "a neutral/unknown person" to me.
Meaning if you were to vouch for someone being "honorful" that would be the same as me saying "i have no idea about this person" do you see the issue I have with your view?



It's not honorary in my book to just say your sorry, but thats is 100% subjective I suppose, in my world to truely do honor on your wrongs you'd have to make up for them.
I also think saying "oh he's applogized and he haven't done something for 3 WHOLE DAYS!" is a bit of a overdramatization of the issue. Time defeats all.

Thanks for projecting such a nice personality upon me, that's really constructive for the discussion.
I treat the people who does wrong as people who's done wrong, if you want to judge me for not having selective memory then go ahead i suppose, but do not presume to "know" that i do this to everyone, I happend to have the ability to remember the people who does wrong and the people who doesn't.


Yet again I disagree, this isn't a matter of 1 person any longer it's a matter of how to deal with similar situations.

Apology accepted Captain Needa. *tights force grip*

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"i'll never fail you again"

"Oh I know you won't (presses button under desk..nothing happens)"

"really I swear"

"Oh, somehow I really do believe you"

*clickaclickaclicka*

sighs
pulls stickynote marker and gun from desk drawer. note to self fix trap door into sharktank. button broken


-don't remember source


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but anyway stay. once they finish tug of warring your rep to default just go about like normal. They won't hold a grudge if you don't give anybody an excuse to do so