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Unigine has released the first DirectX 11 benchmark called Heaven. It also has native support for OpenGL, DirectX 9, 10 and 11. You can download it for free from here.
http://unigine.com/press-releases/091022-heaven_benchmark/
Tessellation pretty much makes up for DX10 all by itself. Impressive stuff!
looks great.But im not sure when we will see a bunch of dx11 games.
The question is... will my graphics card support DX11?
I'm not even sure if it supports DX10... although I'm sure it should do.
(its a GTX 285, and I'm on Vista64... if that interests anyone).
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Andy_Panthro: The question is... will my graphics card support DX11?
I'm not even sure if it supports DX10... although I'm sure it should do.
(its a GTX 285, and I'm on Vista64... if that interests anyone).

It supports DX10. Although nvdia were slow to update their drivers for DX10, DX10 functionality was firmly in place by the time the 200 series was launched.
I don't think that anything but ATI's latest support DX11 at the moment though.
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Navagon: It supports DX10. Although nvdia were slow to update their drivers for DX10, DX10 functionality was firmly in place by the time the 200 series was launched.
I don't think that anything but ATI's latest support DX11 at the moment though.

In terms of supporting DX11, is that something that will require new drivers, or a new card? I remember reading something about new DX11 cards coming out next year... 300 series for nVidia for example.
[edit] just checked the Wikipedia list for DX10 games... and it's very slim. I guess missing out on DX11 might not be too much of an issue.
Post edited October 23, 2009 by Andy_Panthro
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Andy_Panthro: The question is... will my graphics card support DX11?
I'm not even sure if it supports DX10... although I'm sure it should do.
(its a GTX 285, and I'm on Vista64... if that interests anyone).
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Navagon: It supports DX10. Although nvdia were slow to update their drivers for DX10, DX10 functionality was firmly in place by the time the 200 series was launched.
I don't think that anything but ATI's latest support DX11 at the moment though.

You know, I've had very little but trouble using an ATI card on my Intel processor :dry: Bloody AMD crap. Next card's got to be at least semi-compatible with my mainboard/CPU.
Slow drawing times when opening menu's are the least of them. It's also caused a few hard resets.
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Andy_Panthro: In terms of supporting DX11, is that something that will require new drivers, or a new card? I remember reading something about new DX11 cards coming out next year... 300 series for nVidia for example.

I doubt there's anything stopping current generation cards from utilising DX11 features when their drivers are properly updated. But as with DX10, many cards that were updated still underperformed next to cards designed with DX10 in mind.
Tesselation represents a pretty major change in the way things are rendered. Raw processing power alone is only going to go so far.
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Lone3wolf: You know, I've had very little but trouble using an ATI card on my Intel processor :dry: Bloody AMD crap. Next card's got to be at least semi-compatible with my mainboard/CPU.
Slow drawing times when opening menu's are the least of them. It's also caused a few hard resets.

I wouldn't be surprised if it was just ATI being crap. I decided to upgrade early because ATI's drivers were so shitty I could barely do anything with it anymore and I couldn't find drivers old enough that they actually still worked properly.
And that was with an AMD processor, by the way.
Post edited October 23, 2009 by Navagon
Next time I'll update my pc hardware I'll buy an Ati DX11 card :) Last time I was stupid and didn't research properly, cause my current motherboard only support CrossFirex and note SLI... Always account for the ability to upgrade...
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Lone3wolf: You know, I've had very little but trouble using an ATI card on my Intel processor :dry: Bloody AMD crap. Next card's got to be at least semi-compatible with my mainboard/CPU.
Slow drawing times when opening menu's are the least of them. It's also caused a few hard resets.
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Navagon: I wouldn't be surprised if it was just ATI being crap. I decided to upgrade early because ATI's drivers were so shitty I could barely do anything with it anymore and I couldn't find drivers old enough that they actually still worked properly.
And that was with an AMD processor, by the way.

Yeah, I won't use an AMD CPU in any of my systems. They're only designed to be speed-demons. Intel may be slower on the starting block, but they're generalists for everything. They're not even overclocked to begin with like most AMD chips are, and then people overclock them again... :blink: and wonder why they're replacing the CPU every couple of years. My 3GHz Intel Dual-core CPU's been running strong for about 4 years now, and doesn't show any sign of giving out.
A bloke I knew bought AMD chips when they first started, and had nothing but hassles getting a lot of his games running on it. I won't even mention the leaky water-cooling system they made for one of their early processors.
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Lone3wolf: A bloke I knew bought AMD chips when they first started, and had nothing but hassles getting a lot of his games running on it. I won't even mention the leaky water-cooling system they made for one of their early processors.

That was like, what, a decade ago? Water cooling has always seemed like a bad idea to me for that reason.
I need new boxers...=P
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Lone3wolf: A bloke I knew bought AMD chips when they first started, and had nothing but hassles getting a lot of his games running on it. I won't even mention the leaky water-cooling system they made for one of their early processors.
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Navagon: That was like, what, a decade ago? Water cooling has always seemed like a bad idea to me for that reason.

Mid-late 90s, yeah. I still can't believe people actually bought it for an electrical system...
Some kids will buy anything new just for the opportunity to have the "latest thing". More money than sense :(
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Navagon: I doubt there's anything stopping current generation cards from utilising DX11 features when their drivers are properly updated. But as with DX10, many cards that were updated still underperformed next to cards designed with DX10 in mind.
Tesselation represents a pretty major change in the way things are rendered. Raw processing power alone is only going to go so far.

ATI has had hardware Tesselation built in since the Radion 2XXX series. The only trouble is no one used it until now since MS has decided to support it with DX11. This is not to say that current cards will use it, they won't. ATi and Nvidia want you to upgrade. It will be interesting to see how things go in the next few months as Nvidia famously said Tesselation was not needed back in the DX10 days so its up to them to now catch up. So far the 5770, 5850 and 5870 have been getting rave reviews especially the 5850 which is cheaper than the GTX285 yet performs as well as it.
The market has swung back to the red camp, lets see what the green team have.
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Delixe: The market has swung back to the red camp, lets see what the green team have.

I won't be in the market for a new card for some time to come. But ATI's drivers really put me off buying their cards now. I've never had much luck with them and recently they've been appalling.
So yeah, I'll be waiting to see what Nvidia come up with. But I doubt it will be any time soon as they're incredibly slow at supporting the latest Direct X. Suits me. I doubt I'll be getting another card for at least 18 months if not longer.