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bloodprice: lol


Mother of Bully Body-Slammed in Video Demands Apology From Her Son's Victim

http://www.foxnews.com/world/2011/03/17/mother-australian-bully-body-slammed-video-demands-apology-victim/?test=latestnews
Well, the mother is a moron because it clearly wasn't Heynes who videoed the incident nor posted it. It was likely one of the bully's toolbag friends, who didn't have enough loyalty to not post it but preferred to post something about his "friend," the bully which made him look like an ass and an idiot.

Heynes didn't make it go viral either, that was the internet itself.

Incidentally, the principal is wrong, if Heynes had been properly taught to fight then he could have done so without seriously endangering the bully. Instead, picked on kids are taught not to fight and no one teaches them how to do so. So he does something he saw on a wrestling show or in a video game, which is dangerous in real life. If he'd known how to sock the kid in the solar plexus and trip him he'd have had the same effect.

Heynes owes that kid zero apology. And Fox can go fuck themselves for trading on this in such a way.
From that story:

"The school said it will decide whether to subject the boys to further punishment after it completes an investigation."

In other words, so much publicity has been stirred up that the douchebags running the school will be hard pressed not to punish Casey further -- maybe much further -- to show how "anti-violence" they are. (This despite the fact that they let habitual bullying go on in their corridors.)
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Blarg: From that story:

"The school said it will decide whether to subject the boys to further punishment after it completes an investigation."

In other words, so much publicity has been stirred up that the douchebags running the school will be hard pressed not to punish Casey further -- maybe much further -- to show how "anti-violence" they are. (This despite the fact that they let habitual bullying go on in their corridors.)
Yep, the punishment is purely in the self interest of the administration at this point. It won't help the children at all. I predict they try and force Casey into Anger Management at the end of this, I hope his parents have the fortitude to stand up to the administration and demand the best for their child.
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Blarg: From that story:

"The school said it will decide whether to subject the boys to further punishment after it completes an investigation."

In other words, so much publicity has been stirred up that the douchebags running the school will be hard pressed not to punish Casey further -- maybe much further -- to show how "anti-violence" they are. (This despite the fact that they let habitual bullying go on in their corridors.)
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orcishgamer: Yep, the punishment is purely in the self interest of the administration at this point. It won't help the children at all. I predict they try and force Casey into Anger Management at the end of this, I hope his parents have the fortitude to stand up to the administration and demand the best for their child.
I think Casey's parents should demand a apology from the bully and his parents. The then the bully's parents should thank Casey for knocking some since into there thick headed son. Casey very easily could have sat on him and just pummeled the crap put of him.. Instead he walked away.
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bloodprice: Casey very easily could have sat on him and just pummeled the crap put of him.. Instead he walked away.
I think this is a very important aspect of this. It looked like the bully had his friends about and the chances of immediate retribution were likely to be pretty high (at least, from Casey's perspective) so why not vent as much as possible before that happened?

Instead, he makes a statement in one move (maybe "I can throw you around like a doll") and leaves it that. It's pretty clear in my opinion that he really doesn't want to fight...

He also does all those things that you are told to do. He turns the other cheek (doesn't respond after a direct punch to the face), walks away (very brave considering another threat had presented and walking away involved turning his back on it) and the self control he shows (not continuing to hit the bully when he was down, despite the adrenaline rush) is nothing short of commendable in my eyes.
CORRECTION: Body-Slammed Bully's Mom Wants Son to Apologize to His Victim

http://www.foxnews.com/world/2011/03/18/correction-body-slammed-bullys-mom-wants-son-apologize-victim/?test=latestnews
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bloodprice: CORRECTION: Body-Slammed Bully's Mom Wants Son to Apologize to His Victim

http://www.foxnews.com/world/2011/03/18/correction-body-slammed-bullys-mom-wants-son-apologize-victim/?test=latestnews
If I was Scrappy-Doo's parents I'd make him apologize too. Yeah, I mean I wouldn't like seeing my kid slammed on concrete but what he was doing was more hateful and asinine than the end result.

I wouldn't want my kid growing up to be an asshole so I probably would've given him a second body slam on the concrete when he got home.
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bloodprice: Casey very easily could have sat on him and just pummeled the crap put of him.. Instead he walked away.
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xyem: I think this is a very important aspect of this. It looked like the bully had his friends about and the chances of immediate retribution were likely to be pretty high (at least, from Casey's perspective) so why not vent as much as possible before that happened?

Instead, he makes a statement in one move (maybe "I can throw you around like a doll") and leaves it that. It's pretty clear in my opinion that he really doesn't want to fight...

He also does all those things that you are told to do. He turns the other cheek (doesn't respond after a direct punch to the face), walks away (very brave considering another threat had presented and walking away involved turning his back on it) and the self control he shows (not continuing to hit the bully when he was down, despite the adrenaline rush) is nothing short of commendable in my eyes.
Agree on all of this. In fact, after the fight, some cheap jerk-off was coming after Casey with punk in his step, but another kid pushed him away. Casey got set up by multiple punks to be humiliated, and what was probably intended was that it would be Casey's humiliation that was to be put up on youtube. Oops sorry, things happened the other way around. But the intent behind this crap was really bad, and it wasn't limited just to one little rat dancing around in glee at an innocent's pain and humiliation. There are clearly things -- and attitudes -- going on in that school and community that adults are tolerating.

And to me, that's who really has no excuse here -- the adults. Kids, you halfway expect to be stupid. Even some pretty great adults started out as total jackasses when they were kids. But if you're an adult and jackass enough to be tolerating this kind of thing -- what's YOUR excuse?
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bloodprice: CORRECTION: Body-Slammed Bully's Mom Wants Son to Apologize to His Victim

http://www.foxnews.com/world/2011/03/18/correction-body-slammed-bullys-mom-wants-son-apologize-victim/?test=latestnews
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carnival73: If I was Scrappy-Doo's parents I'd make him apologize too. Yeah, I mean I wouldn't like seeing my kid slammed on concrete but what he was doing was more hateful and asinine than the end result.

I wouldn't want my kid growing up to be an asshole so I probably would've given him a second body slam on the concrete when he got home.
Absolutely. I'd be ashamed as hell of my kid being such a hateful little dickwad, and he'd have a lot to answer to for that kind of behavior.

I'm old enough to remember when the immediate response to your kid getting out of line was not to defend his crappy behavior or start issuing threats to whoever he hurt (unless you were a douchebag of memorable proportions) but to walk him over to whoever he wronged and have him apologize, plus maybe ground him, whack him, keep him off the sports team, or give him a good scare besides. Parents taking their responsibilities as parents seriously was a great thing. We've lost a lot of bad things from the past, but that was a good one.
Post edited March 18, 2011 by Blarg
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Blarg: Agree on all of this. In fact, after the fight, some cheap jerk-off was coming after Casey with punk in his step, but another kid pushed him away. Casey got set up by multiple punks to be humiliated, and what was probably intended was that it would be Casey's humiliation that was to be put up on youtube. Oops sorry, things happened the other way around. But the intent behind this crap was really bad, and it wasn't limited just to one little rat dancing around in glee at an innocent's pain and humiliation. There are clearly things -- and attitudes -- going on in that school and community that adults are tolerating.

And to me, that's who really has no excuse here -- the adults. Kids, you halfway expect to be stupid. Even some pretty great adults started out as total jackasses when they were kids. But if you're an adult and jackass enough to be tolerating this kind of thing -- what's YOUR excuse?

Absolutely. I'd be ashamed as hell of my kid being such a hateful little dickwad, and he'd have a lot to answer to for that kind of behavior.

I'm old enough to remember when the immediate response to your kid getting out of line was not to defend his crappy behavior or start issuing threats to whoever he hurt (unless you were a douchebag of memorable proportions) but to walk him over to whoever he wronged and have him apologize, plus maybe ground him, whack him, keep him off the sports team, or give him a good scare besides. Parents taking their responsibilities as parents seriously was a great thing. We've lost a lot of bad things from the past, but that was a good one.
All excellent points there, sir. Nowadays it's everyone ELSES fault, which is bullshit.
I know it's not entirely right, but I like this video sooo much. Like many of us, as a kid, I got bullied by others at regular intervals, and only rarely I fought back, and even then only stoically. I sometimes dreamed I would fight back, really hurt the group that made me miserable through my early school years, but a faint sound in my head always told me to forget about it and just deal with it.

Luckily, I found some good friends in high school, and together we kinda made a harder target for bullies, so everything eased quite a bit over the years. Good thing too. I wasn't the one to hold it down forever. I had a feeling that, given time and effort, someone would feel the end of my elbow in his jaw when I would snap too. You can only put up so much until that choking feeling you get when you let the injustice blow away would get too much to bear.

So, what I wanted to say is, good on you Casey, for doing something I would have loved to have done, had I not felt bad for the soon-to-be-McDonalds-employees-after-they-eventually-fell-out-of-the-school-system.
I wouldn't say I was especially bullied at any point, but I was paranoid that I might get bullied when I started middle school. I was always one of the shortest kids in my elementary school class, and going into 7th grade I was an even 5 feet tall. But by the time I finished 8th grade, I had grown 8 inches. I've only grown 2 inches since then.

But when I was in...I wanna say 2nd grade, my entire soccer (that's football to the rest of the world) team was bullied by this one kid who thought he was all that & a bag of chips. He was always smart enough not to say or do anything if the coach or coach's (adult) daughter were watching. Well, like I said earlier, I was always one of the smallest kids in elementary school, so I was certainly no tough guy. But one day, he grabbed the soccer ball away from me & said something like "Gimme that ball you idiot" or something derogatory. To this day I have no idea why I snapped, but I did. I grabbed him by the hood of his jacket as he tried to walk away, pulled him back & just started swinging. He never even struck back, just covered up while I was pounding on him. Amazingly, the coach's daughter saw the whole thing, called for the coach who separated us, and told him exactly what happened. I was in tears because I was always taught it was wrong to fight, so the coach's daughter thought I was hurt & checked me over, consoling me when she realized why I was crying. And the bully? The coach made him run a lap around the field as punishment. And he never bullied any of us again.

Looking back at this situation now (which I haven't done in many many years), I find it interesting that the bully never fought back. He was verbally abusive & would often shove us, but he never actually hit us. Perhaps when it came right down to it, he had no real desire to fight, he was just trying to get whatever it was he wanted. Also of interest is that I became neither the team hero nor the team bully after this. Everything just fell back into its original place, except that the bully stopped bullying.
Post edited March 19, 2011 by ChaunceyK