Oh I'm with Amok, not with 'the rest of us' whoever that is. The least we can do is to respect one of the few retailers who respects us.

I wouldn't give him too much credit, Starmaker did put up quite the offensive I must say. :P

Consider them a dynamic duo, battlers in a tag-team fighting game where I lacked a second player myself and was overwhelmed and outdone. FINISH HIM! LEEEGALITY! *toasty!*

Actually, Amok is always polite and all I've ever seen him doing was informing. If you don't give a toss about the fact that what you're doing is quite unfair, well, ignore him - if you do, think again about splitting humble bundles (and the other bundles which make it clear they don't wish you to do so.) Arguing morality or legality of the entire deal is pointless, as it's neither of the two.

Oh good god *sigh* I never said he wasn't polite, I do agree he was as polite as he could possibly be with something like this, (it was more Starmaker who seemed more aggressive about the matter) all I said was, this thread turned into something else, something I no longer wanted any part of and so closed it so as to cause no further issue. And you can stop being snippy with me, thank you, it's not that I don't "give a toss," it's that I plain don't get it, and still don't. I wasn't even aware that "splitting bundles" was verboten until this came up. Regardless as you can see I closed the contest and until my apparently puny mind is able to grasp HB's TOS, I will refrain from touching this sort of thing with a ten-foot pole.

And if it isn't about legality or morality, then what is it then might I ask? The only other thing would be a pissing contest, but that's unfair. It most certainly IS an issue of ethics and legality we are dealing with here, otherwise why would you care? The only reason I would respect a rule is if it WAS an issue of legality and./or morality. Like I said, I don't see how this defies this, none of the above posts have cleared it up for me. And I don't care to further find out. I just want this to be over and done with. Thank you, and have a good night folks.

Yeah I didn't say it's not an issue of legality or morality, I said it's pointless to argue about it.

To them it's about decency i guess. Anyway your op got high repped, and that is the view of the major here.
I think everyone should have the right to their own opinion but Amok is taking this crusade too far and its getting more aggresive then a Jehova's witness.I know it's hard but you really should just have ignored them just as they should ignore those who have different views/opinions.
And this shouldn't just turn into another endless discussion on this, just wanting to give you a pat on the back and say dont let the few get to you.

This time again yeah till a new one shows up.

It is pointless to argue about it as someone else said, yet because of you and a few it somehow always ends up into an arguement. Some are even totally unaware and some would just not care.Wouldnt be the first time someone got upset (and was not even aware).

But why is it pointless? You said it wasn't about either when it most certainly was. My (initial) argument was that I did not understand what made this sort of deal unfair, disrespectful, unethical, whatever you want to call it, which is how this whole thing got started in the first place, other than the fact that HB said so. As I said, I don't get it, but hey, I guess others do so I'm going to just drop it right here.

I thought you just said you don't care? If you didn't I'd be glad to run it down for you in a few bullet-points, basically:
Some bundles, usually fixed-priced ones, are sold as individual licenses. Basically, you buy a bunch of individual games from them and you can do whatever you want with them - even resell the keys. Bundle Stars would be one example of that.

However, then there's another kind of bundle, like HIB, where you choose your price. Most of the time, this price is not actually worth all the games in the bundle (not by a long shot, especially given how much of your payment goes towards charity), and more importantly, it doesn't pay for them on all the distribution platforms you get the key for - so they're sold to you as a single entity. They're not a bunch of games, they're a single bundle - that's why HIB doesn't want you to split the bundles.

Now, for the legality bit:
When you buy the game, you agree with HIB's terms and conditions. That's for the legality bit, really - you agree that you will not split your keys and that you will keep them for your own needs.

And the morality part?
Let's just say that when purchasing from HIB, HIB actually entrusts you with the keys - they trust you, their customer, that you will keep your end of the deal and will only use the keys for your own, personal benefit. That's unheard of, isn't it? Well... It's unheard of because customers tend to abuse this trust. Very easily proven by people who are very aware of this license agreement, still redistributing the keys. There's really no way you can spin this to make it moral - HIB literally tells you 'here are the keys, and we are not going to make any precautions to limit you in their use because that would limit you, our customer'
See? That's a show of respect. Now if your response is 'Oh I don't care', you are sending out the message that bundles which do limit their customers (like those with a set minimal price that don't support charity whatsoever) are much better off.

You answer your own question :)

I see it as an information service to those unaware. Those who do not care, there is not much to do about, but there has been quite a lot decent people who just did not know. I am willing to survive a 100 "not care" to just get to one decent one.

I find it just as strange that a lot of people care so much about what I do, as I usually just leave the one forum post informing them about HB's and GOG's wishes, and just reply if someone directly questions me about it. I always find it strange that those who should not care.... care so much about my post. The others who are unaware are generally quite decent about the whole thing.

It's not just a 100 "not care" you are seriously pissing people off, not maybe they only retract those humble keys but also possibly any other giveaway for the future, also non humble keys. Perhaps even scare people away from the forum.
Secondly you have and had your chance in creating your own topic about it so anyone can read it and read your opinion, you don't have to drag it out also in everyone's giveaway topic. It's like pissing on someone's party.
Also you could even just inform someone through pm and it keep it atleast out of the forum everytime.

It is not just you, and this time it's Starmaker as well, but one can feel like they are being ganged up on.

Well of course he's pissing people off, people want their free games damnit :-P At any rate, all he does is leave a single note, and on several occasions, I have seen people just turning around saying 'hey, I didn't know that, all right, I'll stop' - creating a single forum topic would not work as it would get burried rather fast.

It's not because they are missing their free games, there are plenty of other games given, most are not even from the humble bundle. Which you and amok dont really like either but sites like groupees don't have a problem with it.
And what about the times a gifter got upset because of it? This hasn't been the first time.
Plus however Amok might post mildly (now) together with people like Starmaker it still might feel like gifters might feel they are ganged up.

Maybe, but there is still a thing called bumping, beside the whole majority knows his views by now.

Sheesh this is turning into wall of texts pretty fast. Thanks for the giveaway Cannard and I hope you don't hate GOG forum and leave angry.

OK, my last post here, honest. I just want to say, I harbor no hard feelings toward anyone in here, no not even the more aggressive posters in here, I understand how passionate people can get about those they hold in high regard, even if any thinly veiled insults that result from that aren't appreciated.

And amok, I do appreciate for trying to be informative in as polite a manner as possible. However, I wish not to painted as some sort of villain here. Yes there are those people who will immediately understand and close their thread right afterward, that's great. If I come off as defensive and pushy about this matter, well, see, when the ethical nature of my post and being is called into question, especially when it's for something as seemingly innocuous as a games giveaway, well of course I'm going to be especially questioning and demanding in clarity of answers. I hope you understand where I'm coming from here. And I agree the Humble Bundle guys are great people, so, as much as I may not understand, agree, or like this rule they have in place, I will certainly respect it from this point on (and also will be more careful in which bundles I choose to purchase as well for this reason). As I did essentially "end" this thread's original purpose, one could say I am far from caring! Maybe it was me doing it to be obstinate, but the end is what counts, and so as I see it I am doing so as to not cause any further trouble.

And so for those offended by the thread's intent, and those in support of the thread, I leave you both equally with this message, something I posted earlier, but you most likely missed it, and as it's more appropriate now:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wc0ZzyQh7Rg

And as someone who considers himself something of a fan of this group I mean this most sincerely. ;)

Thanks Cannard!