Posted August 16, 2013
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THIS KNIGHT MISLIKES THESE HEIGHTS
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Yiuca
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Registered: Oct 2010
From United Kingdom
Posted August 16, 2013
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On my main laptop, I have two 750GB hard drives (HDD). Their capacity is fine for now, but if anything, I'd like to swap them to bigger drives, not some laughable 120-300GB SSDs. I sometimes wondered why nowadays I hear so many people complain they are constantly running out of space on their C:-drive, until it occurred to me they must be using those freaking small SSDs.
Also, I don't quite get the idea of buying a small SSD (C: drive) only to keep Windows on it, and then a secondary bigger HDD to install all the humungous 15-20 gigabyte games and applications on it. Wasn't the point of installing the SSD exactly so that all those big games would load faster? How does it really help if their files are still on a separate, "slow", HDD?
Maybe for me the hybrid drives are the way to go...
I have the combination you speak of, 128GB SSD + 2TB HDD, plus some other drives, but my games go on the 2TB drive... I find the performance acceptable, at the very least it's quicker than having games installed on a primary boot HDD, at the moment the facts are clear as you said in your post, affordable large SSDs are still too costly, therefore the best trade-off for the moment is a combination of both. For this reason for the moment HDDs will be staying for now, SSDs will continue to drop in price meaning such a combination makes even more sense, which in turns helps lower SSD prices further.
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timppu
Favorite race: Formula__One
Registered: Jun 2011
From Finland
Posted August 16, 2013
Probably so. I have a hybrid drive on my newest HP laptop (which is not primarily for my use), but I don't really get any feel of extra speed on it compared to using a 7200 or even the slower 5400 RPM HDDs on my main laptop (maybe I would notice it if I clocked it).
For now I feel quite fine with the speed of the HDDs, so I guess I keep waiting for SSD prices come down. For now I value the capacity over the speed.
Ok. I turn off and on my PC quite often, at least once a day, and I feel fine waiting for it booting up. At least it is still 10x faster than either e.g. my Android tablet or smartphone booting up, which really take ages. :)
If I switch on "fast bootup" in Windows 8 (which basically is a hybrid hibernate mode), Windows boots up in mere seconds with a HDD. But I've disabled even that due to couple of unwanted glitches I had with it, so I am waiting the full time for Windows to power up and load. I guess I am just a patient kind of guy then (except with those Android devices, hence I rather keep them powered on all the time; but the stupid Huawei phone eats the battery in a day or two anyway even if I do nothing with it, so I still have to reboot it quite often).
For now I feel quite fine with the speed of the HDDs, so I guess I keep waiting for SSD prices come down. For now I value the capacity over the speed.
Ok. I turn off and on my PC quite often, at least once a day, and I feel fine waiting for it booting up. At least it is still 10x faster than either e.g. my Android tablet or smartphone booting up, which really take ages. :)
If I switch on "fast bootup" in Windows 8 (which basically is a hybrid hibernate mode), Windows boots up in mere seconds with a HDD. But I've disabled even that due to couple of unwanted glitches I had with it, so I am waiting the full time for Windows to power up and load. I guess I am just a patient kind of guy then (except with those Android devices, hence I rather keep them powered on all the time; but the stupid Huawei phone eats the battery in a day or two anyway even if I do nothing with it, so I still have to reboot it quite often).
Post edited August 16, 2013 by timppu
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Yiuca
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Registered: Oct 2010
From United Kingdom
Posted August 16, 2013
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If I switch on "fast bootup" in Windows 8 (which basically is a hybrid hibernate mode), Windows boots up in mere seconds with a HDD. But I've disabled even that due to couple of unwanted glitches I had with it, so I am waiting the full time for Windows to power up and load. I guess I am just a patient kind of guy then (except with those Android devices, hence I rather keep them powered on all the time; but the stupid Huawei phone eats the battery in a day or two anyway even if I do nothing with it, so I still have to reboot it quite often).
I read about the fast bootup feature of Windows 8, it sounded quite promising but alas I've not migrated to Windows 8 so wouldn't actually know how well it works. May I ask what kind of glitches you experienced? Sometimes handy to know these things.
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Posted August 16, 2013
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Best fast bootup out there, though, I think is the ASUS quick boot. On a fully magnetic mechanical drive my laptop boots up in less than two seconds in Windows 7, which is great. Add in the 11.6" form factor and there's no compelling reason to carry around a tablet when I've got a fully-featured laptop in the same space.
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Fenixp
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Registered: Sep 2008
From Czech Republic
Posted August 16, 2013
That's why you install Classic Shell and just kind of get best of both worlds
It tends to skip the BIOS screen and just jump straight to loading Windows, but I've never seen it skipping OS selection somehow. At any rate, it is way faster than my Win7 install and directly in the OS, you have a restart to BIOS option, which is fantastic.
It tends to skip the BIOS screen and just jump straight to loading Windows, but I've never seen it skipping OS selection somehow. At any rate, it is way faster than my Win7 install and directly in the OS, you have a restart to BIOS option, which is fantastic.
Post edited August 16, 2013 by Fenixp
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timppu
Favorite race: Formula__One
Registered: Jun 2011
From Finland
Posted August 16, 2013
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I had two problems with it, which probably don't affect most users:
- Since I have Windows 7 and Windows 8 installed side by side, "fast bootup" on Windows 8 had the bad habit of corrupting files on the Win7 partition. This was a known problem, I don't know if MS ever fixed it. I presume it will not affect you unless you have some older Windows installed on the side.
- On my PC (ASUS G75VW), fast bootup somehow prevented me from booting up to BIOS/UEFI setup. Some other ASUS owners running Windows 8 reported similar problems on the ASUS forums, and some noticed that when they restart Windows, then they were able to get there (when you run Win8 restart, then it boots the PC up completely, without the partial hibernate). So switching off fast bootup fixed this too.
I recall hearing also that if you have e.g. Linux installed beside Windows 8, fast bootup may make it trickier to boot to Linux. Not sure though, I haven't installed Linux on this PC, at least not yet.
But I guess for most Win8 users the fast bootup is fine way for minimizing the boot up time. A bit like using hibernate instead of shutdown would be for Win7/Vista/XP users, I guess.
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Yiuca
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Registered: Oct 2010
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Posted August 16, 2013
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Best fast bootup out there, though, I think is the ASUS quick boot. On a fully magnetic mechanical drive my laptop boots up in less than two seconds in Windows 7, which is great. Add in the 11.6" form factor and there's no compelling reason to carry around a tablet when I've got a fully-featured laptop in the same space.
I've just read up about ASUS FastBoot, so it does indeed work as advertised? That's pretty cool.
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