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Ya know, talking about all this Android stuff - I think I've just ruled the iPad as is - I'm wondering about as fast as these tablets are progressing they may very well start replacing laptops at some point. Hell, some of the ones out right now could easily serve their function for someone who's only got basic computing needs. I mean, they more or less have replaced netbooks already.
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mistermumbles: Ya know, talking about all this Android stuff - I think I've just ruled the iPad as is - I'm wondering about as fast as these tablets are progressing they may very well start replacing laptops at some point. Hell, some of the ones out right now could easily serve their function for someone who's only got basic computing needs. I mean, they more or less have replaced netbooks already.
They pretty much are laptops now, hell even my cheapie is pretty damn good for the price and does quite a bit.
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mistermumbles: I'm curious as to what graphics processor it has though. Every website that has tech specs for it only say it has one, but no specifics on what it actually is.
Snapdragon processors come, from what I understand, with integrated GPU's - much as what happens on the PC. So it should have an Adreno 305 @ 450 Mhz (i.e. there's different versions out there, depending). Unless my research is way off - based on Wikipedia and then a few more google searches. This is, too, quite middle of the roadish.
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mistermumbles: So I may be in the market for a tablet. Do I need one? Nope, but every now and then I do like to indulge myself with some luxury toys. Because of that I spent probably way more time (3-4 hours) than intended comparing a bunch of models at a Best Buy yesterday. Still, with these kind of things a hands-on tryout is always a good thing. I've looked at the bigger sized and 'mini' style variants of tablets and I think the smaller ones are actually a much better fit, especially when considering actually toting one around.

Now the main thing really is whether I should go with an Android one or iPad mini Retina. Sure the Android ones offer a lot of flexibility, but in comparison iOS still provides a ridiculous breadth of products in its closed-off ecosystem. Thing is, I'm not sure I would take enough advantage of Android's flexibility for it to be a worthwhile investment. Yes, I may be curious to run some Dosbox stuff, install a browser of my own choice, and play around with some open source games, but all in all I'm not sure I'll be doing it enough for me to choose Android over iPad.

Even though the Android market is really heavily fragmented it did make for some good comparison shopping yesterday. The top contenders there for me were the Kindle Fire HDX 8.9 and Samsung Galaxy Tab Pro 8.4. Hardware wise their innards are almost exactly the same. Things I didn't like about the Kindle: oh my god it feels so fucking cheap when holding in my hands! It really does. It also kind of looks it, too. I'm also not sure whether I'm a fan of the Fire OS. Seems like sideloading apps (anything not available within Amazon's ecosystem) onto it can be a bit of a chore. It also doesn't have expandable storage unlike Samsung's offering via a microSD slot. In fact, Samsung seems to be the only tablet maker to offer that kind of feature. That said the Tab Pro felt really nice in my hands. That fake leather backing looks quite nice and it allows for a nice grip. Unfortunately, I'm not a big fan of the button placement on that particular tablet; in this case the Kindle's buttons placed on the backside of the Kindle made much more sense as well as have no possibly accidental interference from touch sensitive buttons present on the Tab Pro's front.

Now the downside on both of them seem to be middling to below average battery life on either of those tablets. Here's where the iPad mini comes into play. While considerably more powerful - despite only sporting a fraction of onboard RAM in comparison to Android tablets - it easily beats the former by at least fifty percent, and I dare say battery life is very important for devices that aren't always plugged in. In addition, I expect gaming will be a big part of my use of any tablet I may choose and iOS is likely to remain the best option where that is concerned, although Android may allow for a wealth of (sometimes not so legal) emulation that Apple won't allow on their devices for obvious reasons. Also to consider is the ever-present ridiculous Apple tax. Since the iPads don't come with an option for expandable storage if one wants more than the base 16GB Apple will happily price gouge the hell out of one's wallet. $100 for 16GB more? $200 for 48GB? Fucking ridiculous. Looking at Amazon's Kindle in comparison their upgrade prices in storage is actually reasonable.

So, yeah, it's kind of a tough decisions as none of the above would be my perfect choice, but these are pretty much the best there are at this very moment. Please feel free to chime in with your thoughts, especially from people who have/are considering a tablet purchase themselves and/or those who are tablet owners.
Side note, my el cheapo android tablet plays the 3D remake of Final Fantasy 4 pretty damn well.
I would say go for the android tablet , it's way easier to get full apps on android, for example just download the amazon app store and they giveaway a full app free each day .
And there is the coins offer as well which you can use again to buy full apps.
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Mnemon: snip
Well, I did go back to Best Buy that day to check the Lenovo stuff. Unfortunately, what they had was only an older 8-inch model - that HD+ seems to be so new it can only be bought straight from Lenovo's website at the moment - but at least it gave me an idea what their hardware is like. I was wondering whether that battery/stand bulge would be a bother, but I was pleasantly surprised by how good it actually felt holding it vertically. Definitely a well-designed piece of tech.

I still haven't made any decision yet, but, yeah, as said if I am going to end up with a tablet it is very likely to be an Android one. I spent some time playing around with iPads again that day, and while they look nice and pack significant power, the Apple tax and its closed-off ecosystem just don't appeal to me.
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liquidsnakehpks: I would say go for the android tablet , it's way easier to get full apps on android, for example just download the amazon app store and they giveaway a full app free each day .
And there is the coins offer as well which you can use again to buy full apps.
Thanks for the tip. I'll keep that in mind whenever I do decide to spring for an Android tablet.
Post edited May 25, 2014 by mistermumbles
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mistermumbles: ...
For me maybe the biggest reason to favor Android tablets is because it doesn't restrict where you can get your apps. Which in my case means dirt cheap, DRM-free Humble Bundle Android games. How many times I've read some iOS user complain "Why aren't there iOS games on Humble Bundles?". Well, duh! Because Apple doesn't want them there.

All in all, to me the same division seems to be happening on the mobile side as was on the personal computer side:

- There's iOS which is more closed and favored by a niche, just like Apple Macs.

- There's Android which is more open, has hardware from different vendors etc., just like Windows PCs.


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pimpmonkey2382: They pretty much are laptops now, hell even my cheapie is pretty damn good for the price and does quite a bit.
With very limited mass storage though. And I still find even basic browsing and "computing" to be much harder and clumsier on a tablet, than on a laptop. Like, say, writing this message to you. I hate it if I try to do it on my tablet or smartphone.
Post edited May 25, 2014 by timppu
Android everytime.iPads are too expensive outright for the ordinary user.
If you want play it safe buy one of the nexus tablets (no microsd slot) or Samsung galaxy ones. Or want cutting edge try el cheap chinese brand and non brand tablets.... tend to come up with new stuff before main brands do ie dual and quad core etc.
I'd go for a decent Android tablet myself. I have Galaxy Tab 2 myself, and while it's not the most powerfull tablet around it is good enough for gaming, surfing and reading e-books and comics. When I upgarde I'd go either for a Nexus or newer model of Galaxy Tab, but that is still to be seen, as I am still pretty happy with the one I got now.