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Does anyone have a list of all games on GOG.com playable with a joystick? Thanks for any help.
This is not all the games on GOG where a flight sim is recommended/useful, but it is most of them:

http://www.gog.com/mix/best_with_a_joystick

It's missing the Wing Commander games
Post edited December 20, 2012 by crazy_dave
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crazy_dave: I'm not sure if this is all the games on GOG where a flight sim is recommended/useful, but it is most if not all of them:

http://www.gog.com/mix/best_with_a_joystick
Some of those may be playable with a joystick but I wouldn't recommend it. I'm extremely biased toword mouse aiming but that not withstanding ID War 2 and both Freespace are way too hard with a joystic or a gamepad.
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crazy_dave: I'm not sure if this is all the games on GOG where a flight sim is recommended/useful, but it is most if not all of them:

http://www.gog.com/mix/best_with_a_joystick
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tinyE: Some of those may be playable with a joystick but I wouldn't recommend it. I'm extremely biased toword mouse aiming but that not withstanding ID War 2 and both Freespace are way too hard with a joystic or a gamepad.
whoa I feel completely the opposite. I tried FS2 with a mouse and hated it and my understanding was that ID War 2 doesn't play at all with a mouse unless you hack it to. Others like IL-2 are downright unplayable with a mouse. Some people claim to do it but I would seriously recommend against it. I love my Logitech Extreme 3D Pro. It may not be the highest class joystick, but it gets the job done.
Post edited December 20, 2012 by crazy_dave
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tinyE: Some of those may be playable with a joystick but I wouldn't recommend it. I'm extremely biased toword mouse aiming but that not withstanding ID War 2 and both Freespace are way too hard with a joystic or a gamepad.
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crazy_dave: whoa I feel completely the opposite. I tried FS2 with a mouse and hated it and my understanding was that ID War 2 doesn't play at all with a mouse unless you hack it to. Others like IL-2 are downright unplayable with a mouse. Some people claim to do it but I would seriously recommend against it. I love my Logitech Extreme 3D Pro. It may not be the highest class joystick, but it gets the job done.
Fair enough. My mother always said I was a little odd. Actually I think her exact words were "What the hell is your problem you goddamn freak!?"

Gotta love mom.

FYI My ID War 2 has always played fine with a mouse. It's an older version from the cd. The thing is, with so many other commands involved (communication, wing-men/side gunners with ID2, checking cargo, hitting a ship without hitting the cargo, grabbing onto the cargo, etc etc etc) I've already got my left hand glued to the keyboard which makes a mouse a lot easier for me to use. I suppose it would work if you joystick had 20 buttons on it. My logitech game pad only has 10.
Post edited December 20, 2012 by tinyE
Well, I did play I-War 1 and Freespace 2 with mouse and keyboard, many years ago. It's completely doable. In fact, I tried playing Freespace 2 with my brother's Saitek joystick about a year ago, and I just couldn't aim. Well, most of the time you have to make only small adjustments, and they were a pain using the joystick. I don't know if it was that specific joystick, though.

I do want to buy a joystick before replaying these games, anyway. It just makes them feel more like simulators.
X-wing, Tie fighter, that Red Barron and IL-2 listed there are definite joystick games, I agree on that. Of course, I still play all my racing games with a keyboard. Maybe it's a genetic thing with me. I just can't get very precise on aiming/steering with a joystick.
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crazy_dave: whoa I feel completely the opposite. I tried FS2 with a mouse and hated it and my understanding was that ID War 2 doesn't play at all with a mouse unless you hack it to. Others like IL-2 are downright unplayable with a mouse. Some people claim to do it but I would seriously recommend against it. I love my Logitech Extreme 3D Pro. It may not be the highest class joystick, but it gets the job done.
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tinyE: Fair enough. My mother always said I was a little odd. Actually I think her exact words were "What the hell is your problem you goddamn freak!?"

Gotta love mom.

FYI My ID War 2 has always played fine with a mouse. It's an older version from the cd. The thing is, with so many other commands involved (communication, wing-men/side gunners with ID2, checking cargo, hitting a ship without hitting the cargo, grabbing onto the cargo, etc etc etc) I've already got my left hand glued to the keyboard which makes a mouse a lot easier for me to use. I suppose it would work if you joystick had 20 buttons on it. My logitech game pad only has 10.
I know I-war 1 is playable with the mouse, but weird I was totally under the impression I-war 2 was not. I could've sworn in fact that Ravenger (a dev on I-war 2 and Defiance) said that he had argued to put mouse control in the game partly because the space sim market and joysticks were imploding and partly becuse he felt people should be able to choose, but his team decided against it because they felt it was the best control scheme for the newtonian physics.

EDIT: I dug up the thread:
http://www.gog.com/forum/independence_war_series/i_war_2_keyboard_mouse_controls/page1
I guess you could play it with KB/mouse but the flight controls weren't on the mouse and were never optimized. Ravenger and others posted ways around it to create better mouse control for the game.
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Drakhyrr: Well, I did play I-War 1 and Freespace 2 with mouse and keyboard, many years ago. It's completely doable. In fact, I tried playing Freespace 2 with my brother's Saitek joystick about a year ago, and I just couldn't aim. Well, most of the time you have to make only small adjustments, and they were a pain using the joystick. I don't know if it was that specific joystick, though.

I do want to buy a joystick before replaying these games, anyway. It just makes them feel more like simulators.
For FS2, I know a lot of people who like tinyE prefer the mouse and keyboard for that game. That simply personal preference on my part. I'm so ingrained from flight sims as well, I simply can't play space sims right with a mouse. I feel like I can't move right. :)
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tinyE: X-wing, Tie fighter, that Red Barron and IL-2 listed there are definite joystick games, I agree on that. Of course, I still play all my racing games with a keyboard. Maybe it's a genetic thing with me. I just can't get very precise on aiming/steering with a joystick.
You're not alone on FS2 - a lot of people like or even prefer the mouse/kb for that game. As I wrote to Drakhyrr, I'm so trained from flight sims to use the joystick, I can't help but translate it to space sims and feel almost naked without a joystick. :) We all have our quirks.
Post edited December 20, 2012 by crazy_dave
Thanks a lot for the help guys :).
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crazy_dave: I know I-war 1 is playable with the mouse, but weird I was totally under the impression I-war 2 was not. I could've sworn in fact that Ravenger (a dev on I-war 2 and Defiance) said that he had argued to put mouse control in the game partly because the space sim market and joysticks were imploding and partly becuse he felt people should be able to choose, but his team decided against it because they felt it was the best control scheme for the newtonian physics.
I got I-war 2 to work with my mouse, but I found it totally unplayable. Joystick is the way to go. Preferably one with plenty of buttons, and with easy access to the keyboard, just in case.