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Darvond: The major thing stopping everyone from increasing the limits on things in terms of the internet world is our good media cartels in the USA. You know, Comcast, Charter, the entire MPAA...
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GreenDigitalWolf: What's the problem with those companies? I'm not from the U.S.A and I see a lot of people complaining about them. I don't remember what were the specific problems, only that they were bad. I'm really curious about it.
Aside from the fact that you pay 60 USD for 5 down and 1 up, there is a a very long and wide list as to the criminal incongruity that Comcast, the North Korea of ISP has committed.

The MPAA, or 'Motion Picture Association of America' is home to some of the biggest hollywood honchos and the main issue is that they are situated in DC. Right on the jugular of the country. Yeah, they might be the ratings board, but like the ESRB, have you ever noticed how incredibly open they are about how a film or game gets rated? Its an omniscient council of vagueness.
Post edited June 27, 2014 by Darvond
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Foxhack: I'd be excited if they fixed all the fucking bugs on the site first.

Why won't they let me buffer more than five seconds of video? Why can't I set the default view quality, and I have to force videos to play at 720p -every time-? WHY DO WE STILL HAVE TO USE GOOGLE PLUS TO DO ANYTHING?

*grumble grumble*
The Google+ is really annoying. I was playing an Android game and it kept trying to access my photos and force me to log in to Google+. I know that's a different site, but it's still fucking annoying. If I wanted a Google+ account, I would make one.
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GreenDigitalWolf: What's the problem with those companies? I'm not from the U.S.A and I see a lot of people complaining about them. I don't remember what were the specific problems, only that they were bad. I'm really curious about it.
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Darvond: Aside from the fact that you pay 60 USD for 5 down and 1 up, there is a a very long and wide list as to the criminal incongruity that Comcast, the North Korea of ISP has committed.

The MPAA, or 'Motion Picture Association of America' is home to some of the biggest hollywood honchos and the main issue is that they are situated in DC. Right on the jugular of the country. Yeah, they might be the ratings board, but like the ESRB, have you ever noticed how incredibly open they are about how a film or game gets rated? Its an omniscient council of vagueness.
I refuse to have anything more to do with Comcrap after they couldn't be bothered to provide the service they were selling. The service was out literally 3 hours a day for the last few weeks before I canceled.

As much as it pisses me off that I'm paying the same price for my 5/1 service with Centurylink that they're charging other people for 40 down where they have it, I'd much rather give my money to Centurylink than comcrap.
Post edited June 27, 2014 by hedwards
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hedwards: -ranting about comcast-
So...I happen to live in one of those duopoly areas. Either FIOS, or Comcast. Not much choice there.
I'm just annoyed that the streams for anything above 1280x720 are separated into video and audio, and not available without Media Source Extensions, so I not only can't view them in my browser (Pale Moon) but I also have to download two files and merge them manually.

Oh well, this 60fps thing likely won't add much more inconvenience. It'll be interesting to see if I even notice any difference.
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Post edited June 27, 2014 by Maighstir
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hedwards: -ranting about comcast-
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Darvond: So...I happen to live in one of those duopoly areas. Either FIOS, or Comcast. Not much choice there.
I'd rather have FIOS, around here I have the max speed at 5/1. Barring extremely expensive leased line service, it's not likely to change anytime soon. We were supposed to be getting service from Gigabit Squared, but they seem to have folded.

i wouldn't be as annoyed if I weren't living in the middle of a major city.
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hedwards: I'd rather have FIOS, around here I have the max speed at 5/1. Barring extremely expensive leased line service, it's not likely to change anytime soon. We were supposed to be getting service from Gigabit Squared, but they seem to have folded.

i wouldn't be as annoyed if I weren't living in the middle of a major city.
It isn't so much a matter of folding as it is an issue that most cable companies have paid off the cities for exclusive rights. Such as the worthless state that is Mormonville.
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hedwards: I'd rather have FIOS, around here I have the max speed at 5/1. Barring extremely expensive leased line service, it's not likely to change anytime soon. We were supposed to be getting service from Gigabit Squared, but they seem to have folded.

i wouldn't be as annoyed if I weren't living in the middle of a major city.
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Darvond: It isn't so much a matter of folding as it is an issue that most cable companies have paid off the cities for exclusive rights. Such as the worthless state that is Mormonville.
That might be the case elsewhere, but it never got to that point. They were supposed to already be laying fiber this year, but they weren't able to secure funding for that and folded as a result.

I think that's the case elsewhere as well. I know that in some markets the city signed over rights exclusively to provide broadband service, but I don't believe that applies locally. We were going to set our own ISP up, but neither Comcast nor Qwest was honest about their plans for future expansion.
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amok: I am sure I will see no difference...
I'm afraid of that as well.
Two frames for the price of one! Get your two frames here.
It's nice to see Youtube add new features over time. I fear though that videos that use it will just be twice as unlikely to work for me personally though (that's not an argument against it in any way mind you!) A few months ago youtube videos started to pretty consistently buffer about an inch of buffer bar, then stop and not load any more after that at all. I pretty much have to reload every Youtube video anywhere from 3 to 100 times to get them to play, and eventually Youtube will throw up a "Having problems playing back?" link which contains informative details about your ISP's reliability with streaming video during different times of the day.

Kind of sad because I used to have 10Mbps and then 25Mbps Internet speed and was able to watch the highest resolution HD videos on Youtube without the slightest hiccup. Now I'm on 50Mbps and enjoyed the same results for months, then all of a sudden it all went downhill and almost no videos play back properly. Talking to other folks in town it seems everyone is experiencing the same problems too, and using networking forensics it appears to be the result of a combination of ISP/IXP peering agreements, and a technical problem known as "bufferbloat" which there is not much the end customer can do about. ;/

Hopefully ISPs, IXPs, and service providers like Youtube can reach agreements in the future on how to handle the bandwidth requirements of today's streaming media in a way that benefits the end consumer without experiencing such problems though. I'm sure it'll get sorted out eventually, but it is frustrating for those who experience it in the mean time. Also, same problem exists on all other local ISP options available, so switching ISPs isn't even an option either.

Sadly, the 60FPS videos will probably end up being unusable to folks like me, but it is great to see they're doing this both for people they will work for from the start, plus it encourages ISPs/IXPs to get their acts together and improve the end customer experience instead of choking the garden hose on sites like Youtube.

I can't wait to see what 2560x1600 @ 60FPS looks like! :)