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there seem to be a witch hunt these last couple of years about women and video games. I am franky sick and tired of it..... They are games, most of the games in question are games for adult. GTFO with this sexist crap... I like my women naked and in trouble so i can save them and they should be smoking hot. There i said it. That doesn't mean i am like that in real life, actually i am extremely respectful towards women in real life. So there you go my overly exagerated two cents on the subject.
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langurmonkey: FREEEEEDDDOMMMMM!!!!!!
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reaver894: fixed
Yeah, you read my mind. :)
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reaver894: fixed
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langurmonkey: Yeah, you read my mind. :)
Neatly spelled out for him in full caps. Amazing.
Well let me quote Lord Acton here:

Power tends to corrupt, and absolute power corrupts absolutely. Great men are almost always bad men.
I have been an admin (including a supermod and more) for a small forum community of about 40 people for half a year after which I resigned as I enjoyed my power very much, far too much to be honest, so I know both sides from personal experience.

As soon as you understand that a forum is a dictatorship (that in our GOG case is probably utilitarisicly benevolent) you mostly stop being upset by mods acting like ignorant little pricks.

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xxxIndyxxx: I like my women naked and in trouble so i can save them and they should be smoking hot. There i said it. That doesn't mean i am like that in real life, actually i am extremely respectful towards women in real life. So there you go my overly exagerated two cents on the subject.
Actually I like them the same way as you do, I would even go a bit further saying I like them naked, beatiful and in distress, ready for rescue in real life as well. That doesn't mean I treat them badly or with less respect, but I think I still can have these wishfull thoughts.

Of course some feminists want to change my model of thinking and that's something I despise. It's like those vegeterians who start insulting me for eating bacon. Or thoes fundamentalistic religious fanatics wanting me to go church on Sundays, confess my sins and start praying. Thats the same league in my opinion, but the obnoxious feminists get more leeway than the other groups.
Post edited August 06, 2013 by Khadgar42
I'm sure the story in the OP is completely unbiased.

GOG forums would be better with actual moderation.
Be nice then the mods will be too!
Sometimes i really wonder if people read entry posts in a thread; sometimes i wonder if they are even able to. Anyway, since this is another forum, and thankfully no immature moderator abuses his priviledges, i will stick with this.

A wonderful proposition though; being nice to someone who labelled you in public, put words in my mouth which i never said or even implied, and banned me because i was talking about a video game's female characters and intrepreted my speech about Triss and Yennefer for real life instead. Some people become so immersed into games nowadays, so much that they practically fail to distinguish between fantasy and real; when those people are given power, they are dangerous. Hell, i already love dangerous people, so i will honestly try to like another one.

Besides admins and mods, i seriously think modern forums need psychiatrists, too.
Post edited August 07, 2013 by KiNgBrAdLeY7
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OH boi, internet drama. What else is new.

All forums are like this. Moderators feel more powerful than in real life, so they are abusing this to bust their endorphines for a little while.

The same is with downrepping on this forum, although here it's even more pathetic.
Post edited August 07, 2013 by keeveek
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KiNgBrAdLeY7: ...
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timppu: To form an educated opinion on whether you are a baddie or not, can you first link to the discussion where you were banned? Then I can see what exacrlt you've written, and not only take your word for it.

After all, if this was a court case, that was merely your version of what had happened.
As soon as my ban is over, i am SO going to link. THAT would be an internet drama. Adult people merging fantasy with reality and ban you because they cannot distinguish between those two.
Post edited August 07, 2013 by KiNgBrAdLeY7
I vote you post what you said in that forum here, and see how the moderators react... for merely scientific purposes...
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KiNgBrAdLeY7:
Yeah I can read:)

I fully understand you are upset, but the mods don't know you, so don't take the comments to heart.
Just ignore it, in a few days your ban will be over.
Post edited August 07, 2013 by Moonbeam
I'm a mod in a very big sports forum, with hundreds of active members (by active I mean: writing, not just registered) and thousands of daily visits. We're dealing with comments like "You're just envious, because xyz is the best of all times", "You're pathetic" and "I bet you're an unemployed, beer drinking fatso" on a daily basis. After every single event (and even DURING the event - aren't people watching their favorite sport anymore?) we have to deal with fans of the winners and the losers. And users always think we're acting unjustified and are censoring them. It's horrible... Long story short: I know what it means to be a moderator. And I've been confronted with such accusations (as yours) more than once. So here is my biased point of view...

- The mods aren't interested in hunting you down. If they were acting arbitrary they wouldn't look for an excuse to ban you. They would just do it. And not only for three days.

- There are always two sides of a story. If it is right what you said, the mods are a bunch of dicks. But I'm sure if we hear the story from the mods, it is you who is the dick. And since you admit in your second phrase that you were "borderline rules-breaking" on a few ocassions... Could it be that you accumulated some "Oh. It's this guy... again." points? Sometimes the last straw that breaks the camel's back, is a pretty small one.

- Since postings were edited and/or deleted, no one can judge who's right. The only ones who know the truth are you and the mods. Clarify this with them. No one from the outside can help you, because no one knows exactly what happened.

- Mods can't always discuss everything to death in realtime. Sometimes they just act without much explanation. I don't know the forum you're talking about, but I bet those mods are "normal users", moderating the forum in their free time.

- Discussing such things in public is a bad idea, even if the moderator "started" it (or: gave you an explanation why he intervened, which is better given via PM). No one wants to read your discussions with the mods in a thread with the title "Is Triss teh hawtest chick in da game?". So the mods HAVE to delete such discussions. Not because they feel unconfortable when someone "shows the world how bad the mods are", but because such discussions ARE unwanted... By the community! Users don't want to discuss if an editing or the deletion of one of your postings is justified. They don't care. Clarify things in private. That's the way to go. And give the mods their time to answer.

And one... no, two more things:
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KiNgBrAdLeY7: I wanted to kindly ask; are all moderators let loose and unchecked?
On most forums: Yes, they are. That's why you have moderators. And that's why you ask long time members with an excellent reputation, if you're looking for mods. You want someone who you can trust. Furthermore: In most forums you have a group of mods, so they're pretty much self-controlling. If one is going berserk, the others will notice and stop him.

Second: Mods can't be 100% fair. Every mod team has it's guidelines, but you always have to interpret them. If the rules say "No insults", you have to define an insult. You can't hand out a list with "oficial insults". Every mod has to decide on his own if "You're ridiculos" is an insult or not. And then it depends on the situation and the user who said this. A user with a history of insults, a newbie, or a well known and liked member. The first could get a ban, the second a PM, the third nothing. That's not "fair", but that's how it is. You can't ban an oldie for that, but you can't allow a troll to go on with it. Different mods can't always act equal in similar situations.




However... I'm sure it's nothing personal. What would they gain from picking on you? Nothing... Except trouble with the Admins if they find out.
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KiNgBrAdLeY7: Today, i got a warning from a female moderator, for a post discussing women in the witcher game, specifically Yennefer and Triss. She accused me in public for offending real life women, while i was talking only about those women in the witcher universe!
I would like to know that mod opinion on the "Hottest TW2 girls" poll, specifically on the subject of Anais being an entry (with votes) on that poll.

Then again i lack context on both instances so i can't form an opinion either way.
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KiNgBrAdLeY7: Today, i got a warning from a female moderator, for a post discussing women in the witcher game, specifically Yennefer and Triss. She accused me in public for offending real life women, while i was talking only about those women in the witcher universe!
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Namur: I would like to know that mod opinion on the "Hottest TW2 girls" poll, specifically on the subject of Anais being an entry (with votes) on that poll.

Then again i lack context on both instances so i can't form an opinion either way.
Totally irrelevant. In that thread which you mention, i was the only one who noticed annais being there and criticised that. But brilliant example. That mod did not care that a fictional, underage girl was considered by people one of the game's hottest characters, did not warn or ban the people who included her in poll and voted for her, and instead warned and banned someone who simply talked about the indignities of said game's adult female characters in another thread, mistaking said post as for referring to real persons. Shamefully, regrettably, pedos seem to be ok or unnoticed in northern countries as it seems, in sweden they even have a party in parliament... But totally irrelevant. Brilliant example this of yours about moderation justice, impartiality, logic and common sense. Then again, video game addicts who got so immersed as to mistake a conversation about their game's characters for real ones, and are in a place to moderate posts, are so expected to moderate the THOUGHTS and intentions of the poster also, and fake-label in public his words as offensive as per their own whims, delusions and assumptions. Thanks for bringing it up.
Post edited August 08, 2013 by KiNgBrAdLeY7
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KiNgBrAdLeY7: I wanted to kindly ask; are all moderators let loose and unchecked? Are they allowed to twist the posts and the meanings of simple members' words at their whims?
In some forum rules they are, and sometimes they aren't. But they always do it, and it is usually hopeless to fight it. Most of them don't even know their own forum rules, they will just do what they feel like or what is established elsewhere. The admins are glad to have these free workers and don't realise how many people these unchecked mods drive away.

Just leave or stop posting. I left a big videogame forum I had been active in for over 10 years a few months ago and became more active here. Aside from the occasional unnecessary threadlock I have seen nothing annoying from moderators here yet.