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pkt-zer0: $60 isn't really typical for PC games, much less expansions. Folks didn't really seem to complain this much about the "$120 price tag" for SC1, or "$240" for Dawn of War 1.

LOL WUT?
Neither SC1 nor DoW1 were announced as a "game, which will be released in 3 parts"
SC1 came out, it was successful, so Blizz made Brood War.
DoW1 was also successful, so Relic made 3 expansions.
SC2 isn't even released, but Blizz has already announced that they will release it as 3 standalone games.
See the difference?
Post edited August 23, 2009 by klaymen
I watched the blizzard panel on the map editor and it may be worth buying just the first out of the 3 games for community made maps. They started off with a 'Uberlisk' which they created with the map editor, I think it was a ultralisk with 8 creatures grafted on its back. It just stomped through a corridor with a ton of zerg killing them all.
The really cool thing was the next thing they showed. It was a starcraft ghost in 3rd person. They even claim they are going to be adding mouse look into the game here. He was running about a terrain base killing zerg in 3rd person then was actually able to go into a building. Blizzard claim with their map editor you will be able to swap out guns, they have even added a inventory system in the game just for mappers. This could mean some really cool RPG or 3rd person shooter games.
The last thing they showed off was a verticle spaceship shootem up also created in the map editor. I was on the fence if I was going to get this game or not but seeing these things pushed me towards buying at least the first game.
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Ralackk: They even claim they are going to be adding mouse look into the game here.

Even better - they claimed they already HAD added it, though to a later build than what was displayed.
And yes, the possibilities of that "map editor" does seem pretty awesome, doing much more than a basic multiplayer map will probably require a fair bit of scripting, I do hope they'll publish/include tutorial docs and a decently comprehensive list of built-in functions. My guess is that it'll be done in LUA, like the WoW UI mods, but that is of course just speculation (was the scripting in SC1 and WC3 based on something, or was it entirely custom-made?).
Post edited August 23, 2009 by Miaghstir
Not sure about WC3 as I've only ever used the SC map editor though I think it may be similar but it was done using starcrafts triggers system. You could string together really complex event triggers using drop down menus to choose your condition, cause and effect to get your required result nothing had to be scripted in any programming language. I'm hoping this same system will be present in SC2, they mentioned something about there item editor so hopefully thats just a large database you can change values in to effect the map. Hard to say though without actually getting my hands on it, which I can't wait to do now.
Post edited August 23, 2009 by Ralackk
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pkt-zer0: $60 isn't really typical for PC games, much less expansions. Folks didn't really seem to complain this much about the "$120 price tag" for SC1, or "$240" for Dawn of War 1.

Yes, $60 isn't typical, but I believe they're going for a more "Modern (warfare)" approach.
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DarrkPhoenix: But it will likely by the case that Blizzard gets some kind of cut from map sales
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pkt-zer0: Supposedly that is not the case, going by a comment on ShackNews.

Well then, here's hoping that that information is correct and that I end up being wrong about the whole matter.
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Weclock: It's a good thing I was already turned off by the $180 price tag. otherwise I'd be really upset.

Wait a second... StarCraft II will be $60 for each campaign, not $50? Kotick will burn in Greedy Businessmen Hell for eternity.
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Weclock: It's a good thing I was already turned off by the $180 price tag. otherwise I'd be really upset.
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TheCheese33: Wait a second... StarCraft II will be $60 for each campaign, not $50? Kotick will burn in Greedy Businessmen Hell for eternity.

Well, you can console your self with the knowledge that we Europeans will be safted even worse. Price here will probably be 60€ meaning ~86$. Now ain't that a bargain! ;) :P
funny, they should also include GfWL - thus I wont be able to play it in here and stop worrying about the game at all :D
this is a bunch of crap... whats going on with blizzard? Honestly, I just got done watching the new Diablo 3 trailer and the graphics would've looked good for a swedish low budget game developer, not the richest game studio in the world. Of course, game before graphics, but in this case, it's just NOT ok.
If you really still want this game after these insulting decisions Blizzard has made, wait for the invitable "StarCraft II Trilogy" release. If you pay full price for 1/3 of the game you are just encouraging them and are part of the problem.
don't even buy it
if ya know what I mean
;)
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ovoon: this is a bunch of crap... whats going on with blizzard? Honestly, I just got done watching the new Diablo 3 trailer and the graphics would've looked good for a swedish low budget game developer, not the richest game studio in the world. Of course, game before graphics, but in this case, it's just NOT ok.

I actually don't mind the way Diablo III looks, but I hate all the people taking the artist's work, using Photoshop filters to darken it and calling their version better. Do they have the talent to create visuals like that artist does? No, so they need to shut their damn mouths and let the experts do their job.
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ovoon: don't even buy it
if ya know what I mean
;)

That's the cause of all this in the first place, man. Stealing is never the answer.
All this talk about the game being split up is rather silly... they just said at Blizzcon that the two seperate campaigns are more like expansion packs, and will be priced accordingly. We had an expansion for the original, now we get two. Sounds good in my opinion. They also said the mission count for the fist release is greater than the mission count in the original game.
More Starcraft is a good thing, people.
Why are PC gamers so vile towards their own hobby? This stuff is supposed to be fun.
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klaymen: See the difference?

From a price or content perspective? No, I don't even see how it's relevant.
And I don't see how announcing the expansions in advance is a bad thing, either. Not keeping customers in the dark about their plans is a good thing, as far as I'm concerned (refer to: L4D2).
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TheCheese33: Wait a second... StarCraft II will be $60 for each campaign, not $50?

I was under the impression that expansion packs retailed for a lower price. Though I can't say I really kept up with Blizzard's recent releases, as WoW doesn't interest me.
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Arkose: If you pay full price for 1/3 of the game you are just encouraging them and are part of the problem.

Was SC1 and WC3 half a game, just because they got an expansion?
Just because it's not the entire SC2 doesn't mean it doesn't have as much content as any full-priced game should. Sure, it might turn out to be lacking in content, but you're just jumping to conclusions, saying that it is.
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ovoon: Of course, game before graphics, but in this case, it's just NOT ok.

Dunno, I think their CGI looks good enough. In-game graphics are probably just a result of the targeted system requirements.