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http://kotaku.com/sniper-elite-3-steam-codes-stolen-resold-revoked-1597650108

Let's just hope that most of these retailers have the sense to refund their customers, either with another key or their money.
It seems this may have been a money grab by rebellion. There has been a fair amount of evidence that these keys were not stolen but revoked because rebellion didn't like the price they were sold at.
http://www.cjs-cdkeys.com/blog/2014/06/gaming-serials/27/sniper-elite-3-cd-keys-revoked-rebellion-smell-rat/

Ill post the steam discussion here as well but it seems steam has been going through and deleting negative remarks.
http://steamcommunity.com/app/238090/discussions/0/540744936577983546/#p1
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coxdr: It seems this may have been a money grab by rebellion. There has been a fair amount of evidence that these keys were not stolen but revoked because rebellion didn't like the price they were sold at.
http://www.cjs-cdkeys.com/blog/2014/06/gaming-serials/27/sniper-elite-3-cd-keys-revoked-rebellion-smell-rat/

Ill post the steam discussion here as well but it seems steam has been going through and deleting negative remarks.
http://steamcommunity.com/app/238090/discussions/0/540744936577983546/#p1
I'm sorry, but that sounds like rubbish.

Every legitimate store sells the game for exactly the price that Rebellion is asking them to. That's a stamdard in any contract between any publisher and any legitimate vendor.

Every store that sells the keys "cheaper as Rebellion would like" is, by definition, not an authorized vendor.

The blog that you are linking to is exactly one outlet of such a CD key reseller who gets his keys from dubious sources and doesn't work together with the publishers. Saying that he has a vested interest in defaming Rebellion's move would be an understatement.
Post edited June 30, 2014 by Psyringe
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coxdr: It seems this may have been a money grab by rebellion. There has been a fair amount of evidence that these keys were not stolen but revoked because rebellion didn't like the price they were sold at.
http://www.cjs-cdkeys.com/blog/2014/06/gaming-serials/27/sniper-elite-3-cd-keys-revoked-rebellion-smell-rat/

Ill post the steam discussion here as well but it seems steam has been going through and deleting negative remarks.
http://steamcommunity.com/app/238090/discussions/0/540744936577983546/#p1
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Psyringe: I'm sorry, but that sounds like rubbish.

Every legitimate store sells the game for exactly the price that Rebellion is asking them to.

Every store that sells the keys "cheaper as Rebellion would like" is, by definition, not an authorized vendor.

The blog that you are linking to is exactly one outlet of such a CD key reseller who gets his keys from dubious sources and doesn't work together with the publishers. Saying that he has a vested interest in defaming Rebellion's move would be an understatement.
Is GMG illegitimate? several buyers from there had there steam key revoked.
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coxdr: Is GMG illegitimate? several buyers from there had there steam key revoked.
They should be legitimate. If keys obtained from GMG got revoked, then there are several possible explanations (I can list some if you want me to), but the "money grab by Rebellion" theory is an extremely unlikely one. If those keys were sold legitimately, then Rebellion would have gotten their money already, so which money exactly would they "grab" by withholding the product from these customers?
Post edited June 30, 2014 by Psyringe
So, a website which sells cd-keys acquired through dubious means is complaining that Rebellion revoked their keys? Tell me more about it. All these "cd-key resellers" seem rather fishy, to be honest, so i'm not surprised.

And i don't feel sorry for those who bought the revoked cd-keys. If you're buying from one of those fishy "cd-key resellers", you know the risks.
Post edited June 30, 2014 by Neobr10
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Neobr10: So, a website which sells cd-keys acquired through dubious means is complaining that Rebellion revoked their keys? Tell me more about it. All these "cd-key resellers" seem rather fishy, to be honest, so i'm not surprised.
According to the article linked by coxdr, the website that's doing the complaining has not had their keys revoked.
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coxdr: Is GMG illegitimate? several buyers from there had there steam key revoked.
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Psyringe: They should be legitimate. If keys obtained from GMG got revoked, then there are several possible explanations (I can list some if you want me to), but the "money grab by Rebellion" theory is an extremely unlikely one. If those keys were sold legitimately, then Rebellion would have gotten their money already, so which money exactly would they "grab" by withholding the product from these customers?
It is just odd. I never actually use key resellers myself but the situation isn't reading right to me. many of the steam comments suggest that this is more than simply stolen keys. It can be a cash grab by forcing legitimate buyers to have to pay for there key twice if they want the game. if they do get a refund and don't buy the game again then rebellion didn't lose anything doing it as its not them giving out the refund. the fact that there "solution" was to give out dlc seems to point to this even more as the only way to play that is by owning the game you will have to pay for twice. if that's not a cash grab then what is?

edit: spelling
Post edited June 30, 2014 by coxdr
Business practices in this industry become more unscrupulous and reprehensible all the time. That's why we're here, isn't it?
Retail version keys sold by PlayON! (formerly CD Projekt Hungary) were also revoked by Rebellion .
Post edited June 30, 2014 by ne_zavarj
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ne_zavarj: Retail version keys sold by PlayON! (formerly CD Projekt Hungary) were also revoked by Rebellion .
Well, that's going to be a barrel of fucking laughs, because most retailers refuse to accept returns of opened PC games.

I can see Rebellion getting themselves into deep legal shit with this.
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coxdr: It is just odd. I never actually use key resellers myself but the situation isn't reading right to me. many of the steam comments suggest that this is more than simply stolen keys. It can be a cash grab by forcing legitimate buyers to have to pay for there key twice if they want the game. if they do get a refund and don't by the game again then rebellion didn't lose anything doing it as its not them giving out the refund. the fact that there "solution" was to give out dlc seems to point to this even more as the only way to play that is by owning the game you will have to pay for twice. if that's not a cash grab then what is?
The game is pretty expensive already. Do you really think that a significant number of people would pay full price for a product that they already bought and didn't receive? And that Rebellion would focus a "money grab" strategy on that? I'm sorry, but that doesn't make sense at all.

I'll give you a few alternative explanations:

a) It's possible that GMG was the legitimate vendor from whom the keys were stolen. If GMG didn't notice that in time, then they probably sold these keys as well. We're talking about a text document with a long list of keys, whoever stole them will have copied the keys instead of deleting the document. GMG would then be selling the same keys as the illegitimate vendors, and GMG customers would be affected by the revocations as well. If this is the case, then GMG will provide those customers with new keys.

b) It's possible that GMG "padded" their supply of legitimate keys with some stolen ones that were sold to them by the thief. Every legitimate store gets "offers" from dubious people who want to sell them keys for cheap. I don't think that's very likely though and I certainly won't accuse GMG of doing such a thing, it would be an extremely serious betrayal of trust.

c) The claims that GMG purchases are affected could be fake, or they could have been fraudulent purchases. Not likely imho, but not completely impossible either. The people who _do_ sell stolen keys are certainly making enough money to be able to afford some misinformation campaigns.

That's just three alternative explanations that I pulled off the top of my hat, there are probably many more. Why are people so readily buying into an extremely weak and illogical "Rebellion money grab" conspiracy theory when alternative explanations exist? Do those other explanations even get explored?

I've read the first couple of posts in the Steam discussion, and what I'm mostly seeing is deplorable disinformation on part of the customers. One is basically saying "I always buy from the cheapest store, I have bought from 150 stores, I never had a key revoked, so Rebellion must be lying". There are probably less than two dozen legitimate stores in the world. Many others are saying that "Steam is too expensive", so they bought somewhere else (which must be an illegitimate store because the legitimate ones have the same, publisher-determined price as Steam). There are also many who say "I bought so many keys from that store and never had a problem, so they must be legitimate". The amount of ignorance and disinformation is just ... sad.
This immediately following news that they're attempting to sue anything that uses the word "rebellion." Guess that's another company to put on my "never support again" list.
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nightrunner227: This immediately following news that they're attempting to sue anything that uses the word "rebellion." Guess that's another company to put on my "never support again" list.
I'm not as radical as to say "never again" but my line of thinking was similar.
"Stolen" is such a harsh word...acquired from a supplier has a much nicer ring to it. @g2a, Kinguin, etc.