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Alright so the first Everquest finally came out on Steam yesterday and I'm really curious about it and want to give it a shot

I have played WAR, LOTR online as well as WoW but I never really played any of the Everquest games

Could someone please give me a brief into how exactly this game holds up today? how does it compare to the MMO's listed above? is the community still active in it? are classes balanced? is there any PVP in it?

If I start playing, what are the first things that I have to know or keep in mind?

Any advice or comments from veterans and people who played it previously would be very welcome.
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Last i played a year ago, the pvp was still as broken as ever it's very rare that anyone does it, graphics are okay the more recent x-packs anyway but dont expect alot.

If you do play be sure to look around on the servers, some are really dead and some are super active.

I would say it is at par with all of them at times but it can take a loooong time to get anywhere without help at some levels though the earliest can shoot on by with a mercenary ( a npc you can hire to fight with you that mimics some of the classes to a degree)

Class balance is random seeing as level/armor/knowlage of the class and AA's which are all different kinds of perks you earn through a sort of alternate leveling all of which can change things for good or bad but in general they are fairly balanced.

I would say it's worth a play just to see if you like it as it can get super addictive real fast if you have help and you enjoy the game mechanics, also there is a card game built into it that you can play as well and get all kinds of gear and items from.
Thanks Darthprymus!

Any other comments? :)
There's a free-to-play plan, so you can try before you buy.
Well the whole game is free to play now. They do however nickle and dime you on certain things in the marketplace and its upto the individual to purchase or not.

I played it back in its hey day for about 4 years. It was a great game 10+ years ago. I quit in 2003 when the level cap was 60. Since then its been raised and alternate advancement levels are in the 1000's now if I remember correctly.

I've gone back 2-3 times over the years when they had free time to try and bring people back and also went back when the F2P model launched. But I can't stay past 10-15 minutes each time and probably won't ever try again. One thing you'll notice off the bat is how ancient the graphics look. But being on GOG, old time graphics shouldn't bother you much.
What the other person said about servers is also true. The server I was originally on has been merged a number of times. I believe the most populated one at the moment is the progression server (don't know the name). All the content is not unlocked and only becomes available when certain criteria is met.
The biggest hangup playing this game though will probably be how far behind you are for endgame content. The game has been out for 15 years now and thats a lot of catchup you'll have to do. But if you're casually playing and not looking to keep up with the Joneses so to speak, it may be fun for you.

If it were me though, I'd look into EQ2. That too is F2P and is more newbie and solo friendly than the original one. Not sure if that one is on Steam but if not, you can still download it for free from SOE website. I couldn't go back and play EQ today but I still occasionally go back to EQ2 to see some of the content changes and say hey to anyone who is still left from the days when I used to play this game.
Post edited December 15, 2012 by teshra
Played EQ for around six years.

I read that its changed beyond all recognition now,

Maybe you should look at Vanguard, It was always considered to be the real EQ2
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Roman5: Alright so the first Everquest finally came out on Steam yesterday and I'm really curious about it and want to give it a shot

I have played WAR, LOTR online as well as WoW but I never really played any of the Everquest games

Could someone please give me a brief into how exactly this game holds up today? how does it compare to the MMO's listed above? is the community still active in it? are classes balanced? is there any PVP in it?

If I start playing, what are the first things that I have to know or keep in mind?

Any advice or comments from veterans and people who played it previously would be very welcome.
Here are some things you should now

http://www.gog.com/forum/general/ok_i_am_going_to_install_everquest_1_on_my_laptop/post16
If this is like EQ2, it is not truly free 2 play. That is, certain classes, item levels, and spells, will be locked to you. Not a problem for a low level character; but once you reach a certain point, you'll either need to subscribe or keep forking out money to "unlock" the items required for your level.
i played Everquest 1 for 6 years...

If you want to solo i suggest unlocking beastlord.... you can solo effectively to 65... well before then you'll have a guild and have made decent friends in the game...

Druids also solo very well but Slow...

as for navigation its quite easy, the ingame maps are insane... you can go here: Mapfiend.net Mappacks and download every map for nearly every zone...

its a fun very complex yet easy to learn game.. ask questions and have fun! best tip, stay in the newbie zone as long as you can.. the items there are amazing and will last you well into your 20's as a caster or beastlord... for melee you may need to shell out some cash for armor, rangers do ok solo (paladins can as well but i hate pallys), warriors are very hard without a better grasp of the game... necros are fun and solo machines IF your patient... magicians are fantastic but a money sink in the begging and enchanters, well, if your a masochist you can do some serious dmg as a chanter....

as for holding up?

graphically its silly but playable
quests are triple anything you can imagine
depth is quadrupole world of war craft in lore, skills, spells, research, leveling up, skillin up and quests involve much more thinking...
Everquest is old school, its like comparing Baldur's gate to Torchlight
you need to have a lot of time to spend learning the game world, the lore understanding faction relationships and how things work... everything has a purpose and a back story...

Hell even the nexus Scions have a back story and all they did was port you to luclin...
Post edited December 16, 2012 by Starkrun
I think Starkrun covers a lot of important points I'd agree with. I played EQ and raided in top guilds for 8 years. I had one hell of a great time in its heyday but it is hard to recommend to a newcomer now much as I wish I could. Although it does depend a lot on what sort of gameplay experience you are looking for. You cannot quickly level up and raid in this game if that is a goal and EQ is more than anything, a raiding game and an excellent one at that. The large scale of EQ raiding is like nothing else along with the coordination of so many classes, all useful to the raid, to conquer various events and tough boss mobs.

The reason I am being a little negative about a game I dearly love but no longer play is just that I am trying to be real and honest with you. I could not imagine trying to start from scratch today and level to cap, probably trying to solo a lot of the early going in a game that is not especially solo friendly and then needing to grind out at least 750 if not 1000 AA to be minimally raid ready. That is a serious investment in time and effort and in such a top heavy game (all the vets are at cap mostly raiding) it could be a lonely journey fraught with difficulty. And you will never get there without spending money. You can depend on that. SOE will get you for the cash sooner or later by gating your ability to advance and enjoy the game, what classes you are allowed to play, how much bag space you can have, etc.

Just the same, checking out the low level game could be good fun and give you a taste of what EQ is like and looks like. Nowadays unless you start on a progression (classic) server which would start you in the original zones, you will begin in a place called Crescent Reach where everything you could need (bank, merchants, etc.) and quests. It is much newer than the old EQ zones and it looks appreciably better as do the series of connected zones you can quest and level in. This was deliberately created to replace the old starting experiences in EQ with a more user friendly one and nicer graphics and was a major part of an expansion some years ago, I forget which one it was now.

The plus to playing on a progression server is you may find other lowbies running around in the old zones and you get to see in most cases, EQ as it was back in the day. As far as I know, places like Greater Faydark (home of the High Elves and Wood Elves) remain unchanged to this day. Some other zones have been upgraded. All the newer stuff looks good actually, not cutting edge but certainly good.

The plus to playing on a regular server, Maelin/Drinal would probably be a good choice as well as Stromm for populations, is that you could start in the much nicer Crescent Reach area and adjacent zones. I would recommend this actually but also encourage you to make a toon in the old world too, just to see the difference and for the fun of it.

You really do not need to worry about gear much in the early going. EQ isn't like newer games where everyone is gear dependent to varying degrees pretty early in the game. In the old days upgrades were few and far between. I remember playing weeks without an upgrade in the early going being common and it was no big deal. You stat increases with leveling make much more difference in the early going and you get those for free just by playing. Of course, it is fun once you level a main and have the resources to twink alts to do so, but really they are quite OP. It is not needed, it's just fun for high level players starting new toons.

Of course, if you want to treat yourself to some gear, I am sure the SOE Store will be happy to sell it to you. If anything, if you are playing a melee toon buying a decent weapon would probably be worth it. You get the most bang for your buck there being able to kill faster.

So by all means do check out EverQuest and see the classic for yourself and how you like it. You might have a great time or you might find it is just too old school. Only you can make that call of course. If you want something more akin to the other games you mentioned, EverQuest 2 would be a good choice. It is far more modern, has nicer visuals, is far more solo friendly, is entirely quest driven for leveling unlike original EQ which is all about grinding mobs for XP and it too is now f2p. A word of caution though, SOE restricts enough stuff that to really enjoy either game you can expect to shell out some cash beyond just the earliest levels. Without spending any money at all what you are really getting is a great demo but not a complete game.

The only other thing that comes to mind is that in both EQ and in EQ2 you can hire mercenary (mercs) NPCs (just one of a class that compliments yours well) to help you. This is huge in EQ particularly. Let's say you want to level a warrior. You NEED a healer to go solo much really. Merc solves the problem. You can hire a cleric to tag along. A Cleric could hire a Warrior or SK or whatnot. So that is a really big help that was introduced to help with the problem of new people trying to level without groups being easy to find. Of course, now that EQ just went f2p, there may be a newbies running about to group with which would be awesome. Grouping to level in EQ is the best and most fun way to go. It always was meant to be played that way.

I would suspect that SOE gets real money out of you for a merc somehow too but I could be wrong. Now that it is f2p I am planning to install it and revisit my old toons for a bit of fun perhaps - assuming I can access their banks and bags to get at their stuff that is.

I hope you have fun checking it out. The world of Norrath is a magical place I will always have very fond memories of.

Oh, and I would second the suggestion to try out a Beastlord if you think you'd enjoy playing a pet class. They really are fun and are a very well rounded character to go solo with. You don't need a merc with one of these guys. The Beastlord is a combination of Shaman and melee dps and the pet augments your dps. They are not intended to tank for you but rather fight along side you boosting your dps. Being part shaman you get some very important and useful benefits - namely, you can slow mobs and you can heal yourself a little. You also get a lot of very nice buffs that make you welcome in a group. Your ability to slow would also make you very welcome in a group. Being able to slow mobs dps is a big deal in EverQuest. It makes a lot of difference and in some cases makes the impossible possible at a given level. So I would encourage you to consider this fun class if you like melee. You could manage well on your own if you pick your spots carefully.

Lastly, visit http://everquest.allakhazam.com which is THE online resource for all things EQ. In particular note the Database menu at the top of the page which is loaded with good info that will help you all about the very many zones in the game, info about quests you encounter, info about items you might find and more.

Damn. I feel like playing EverQuest now. lol
Post edited December 16, 2012 by dirtyharry50
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dirtyharry50: Lastly, visit http://everquest.allakhazam.com which is THE online resource for all things EQ. In particular note the Database menu at the top of the page which is loaded with good info that will help you all about the very many zones in the game, info about quests you encounter, info about items you might find and more.

Damn. I feel like playing EverQuest now. lol
I miss Castersrealm like crazy :(
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dirtyharry50: Lastly, visit http://everquest.allakhazam.com which is THE online resource for all things EQ. In particular note the Database menu at the top of the page which is loaded with good info that will help you all about the very many zones in the game, info about quests you encounter, info about items you might find and more.

Damn. I feel like playing EverQuest now. lol
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Starkrun: I miss Castersrealm like crazy :(
Yeah, they were good too. I miss old EQ the way it once was for me. Nothing can ever be like that again really.
I started when Kunark was released... i miss how it was so much... nothing, not a single game has ever come close to how fun EQ was... Asherons Call 2 was very very close... so was Anarchy Online back in the day.... but for modern MMO's there isnt much out there with the draw and excitment of EQ, where you can efectivly solo, group or raid at any level.....

Not that EQ isnt like it was its super fun still but, I've played the hell out of it.... the sights of seeing the Ak'non have faded, or walking into the Timmorious Deep for the first time... seeing your first Sand Giant and at the same time meeting your first Bard :p