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The wikipedia article says, about the reverse V gesture, that "its use is largely restricted to the UK, Ireland, Australia and New Zealand".
Is it really a common insult in Australia and New Zealand too? I wonder if Valve will change L4D2 cover also in those countries.
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DarthKaal: The wikipedia article says, about the reverse V gesture, that "its use is largely restricted to the UK, Ireland, Australia and New Zealand".
Is it really a common insult in Australia and New Zealand too? I wonder if Valve will change L4D2 cover also in those countries.

I don't know. It's not exactly common in the UK, really. Or at least, most people seem to favour just using the middle finger.
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Navagon: It seems Valve have picked up on this, and now our zombies are thinking they're Winston sodding Churchill.
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chautemoc: What's the Churchill reference? I am ignorant. :)

Yeah, Maverick cleared that one up nicely. It's a WW2 gesture made by our 'greatest Briton that ever lived'.
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TheCheese33: You know, when I first read the title I thought Valve changed the pricing structure for Steam so Europeans wouldn't get a terrible deal anymore. But now I see that it's just box art for L4D2.

Well, the UK get pricing in £GBP, not Euros, so we're not quite as badly affected. But given the exchange rate, prices are starting to creep up. Or rocket up in the case of Modern Warfare 2.
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Nafe: Gotta say I disagree, wanker is a very mild term indeed.

It's about as mild as it gets.
Post edited August 06, 2009 by Navagon
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DarthKaal: The wikipedia article says, about the reverse V gesture, that "its use is largely restricted to the UK, Ireland, Australia and New Zealand".
Is it really a common insult in Australia and New Zealand too? I wonder if Valve will change L4D2 cover also in those countries.

It is common but generally Australians see an insult as a challenge so if we see a game who's cover seems to be saying "Up yours mate!", we'll be more likely to pick it up for a closer look than run screaming from the shop to the nearest news outlet to decry the shocking state of the world today and how computer games are to blame
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DarthKaal: I knew this story about the reversed V in UK, and still wonder if many americans (or even the Fox) knew it when watching Buffy. This was in the opening for many seasons.

lulz
I learned it from Buffy growing up. >_> Probably the nerdiest aspect of me is that I use it. A lot. And look like a pretentious twat using that in the U.S.
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Krankor: Oh Oh! I only had a Whispa last week. Put me out of my misery and explain what I'd get in Japan.
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bansama: Sanitary towels.

the cut off fingers of the bowmen?
I'm from belgium so we get plaged a lot by those foreigners from marrocco , algeria , ... .
They often use that gesture as well. Now that i know what it means i'll be obligated to buy myself a longbow as defence.
I'm afraid the cops won't believe my story though. would you guys kindly testify in a courtroom?
Post edited August 07, 2009 by CyPhErIoN
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DarthKaal: The wikipedia article says, about the reverse V gesture, that "its use is largely restricted to the UK, Ireland, Australia and New Zealand".
Is it really a common insult in Australia and New Zealand too? I wonder if Valve will change L4D2 cover also in those countries.
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Aliasalpha: It is common but generally Australians see an insult as a challenge so if we see a game who's cover seems to be saying "Up yours mate!", we'll be more likely to pick it up for a closer look than run screaming from the shop to the nearest news outlet to decry the shocking state of the world today and how computer games are to blame

Oh ok, I've forgot you Australians are all savage...
Just kidding :p
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Aliasalpha: It is common but generally Australians see an insult as a challenge so if we see a game who's cover seems to be saying "Up yours mate!", we'll be more likely to pick it up for a closer look than run screaming from the shop to the nearest news outlet to decry the shocking state of the world today and how computer games are to blame
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DarthKaal: Oh ok, I've forgot you Australians are all savage...
Just kidding :p

who are you calling savage? lol
mm yeah, and there was this quite amusing post on the l4d blog about how they designed the box art for l4d2 or something about the esrb not liking a game cover to involve people biting off their fingers
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Navagon: For those that don't know, the reverse V for victory gesture (with your palm facing inward), effectively means "F U" in the UK.
It's a gesture that goes back to fighting the French - who cut those fingers off our captured archer's hands so they were no longer able to fire their longbows. So the remaining archers took to giving that gesture to show they still had their fingers and were about to use them to give the French some nasty splinters.
If you're still not sure how that gesture would look, take a look at the OLD image attached.
It seems Valve have picked up on this, and now our zombies are thinking they're Winston sodding Churchill. I don't know why, but this made me laugh. Valve have had to change that cover so many times it looks like someone just bunged their hand under the scanner, photoshopped it and said "there, bloody done with it".
Is it just me or is L4D2 just becoming farcical now?

That new image looks completely rubbish in my opinion. There was nothing wrong with the original L4D2 cover and it looks like they've just made a quick replacement. It looks terrible! :(
From my experience noone really cares about swearing in the uk too much. I will quite happily say shit fuck. etc. in front of my parents. and do regularly refer to my closest freinds as a bunch of cunts or worse. Noone i know really cares. On a more on topic stance I think its really just over sensitivity on valves part to change the cover art. We arent americans and (at least i would hope) dont tottaly freak out over such minor things like that.... well... probably...
Well the red tops freak out over anything they think might sell papers i suppose
Post edited August 07, 2009 by BladderOfDoom
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BladderOfDoom: Well the red tops freak out over anything they think might sell papers i suppose

The worst swear words are The S*n, The M*rror, The Daily M**l and the Expr*ss.
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korell: That new image looks completely rubbish in my opinion. There was nothing wrong with the original L4D2 cover and it looks like they've just made a quick replacement. It looks terrible! :(

Terrible, isn't it? There's no way they put any effort into that.
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BladderOfDoom: Well the red tops freak out over anything they think might sell papers i suppose
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Andy_Panthro: The worst swear words are The S*n, The M*rror, The Daily M**l and the Expr*ss.

Especially the Mail and the Mirror. The others have a lot to answer for, but those two are responsible for a non-stop stream of outright bullshit.
Post edited August 08, 2009 by Navagon
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Navagon: That new image looks completely rubbish in my opinion. There was nothing wrong with the original L4D2 cover and it looks like they've just made a quick replacement. It looks terrible! :(

I agree. My first cursory glance made me think it was a homemade Photoshop scan/doctorization.
Post edited August 27, 2009 by Billy_Brightside
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Navagon: That new image looks completely rubbish in my opinion. There was nothing wrong with the original L4D2 cover and it looks like they've just made a quick replacement. It looks terrible! :(
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Billy_Brightside: I agree. My first cursory glance made me think it was a homemade Photoshop scan/doctorization.

Exactly. There are so many things wrong with it too. Valve must really have been fed up with it by that point.